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1 posted on 05/01/2004 6:00:08 PM PDT by raysol
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To: raysol
This is not coherent.
2 posted on 05/01/2004 6:02:18 PM PDT by Threepwood
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To: raysol
That's not gonna win you friends, here.
4 posted on 05/01/2004 6:06:42 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: raysol
I like to have a few beers sometimes myself, but I mean really...
5 posted on 05/01/2004 6:07:08 PM PDT by Living Stone (The following statement is true: The preceeding statement is false.)
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To: raysol
The World has changed. Back then it didn't make sense to take the war to Britain.

And back then you didn't have foreigners bringing terrorist activities to our soil (ever hear of the "September 11, 2001 Attack on America?).

So you want to sit back and let them bring it to us...again?

Should we have not gotten involved in WWI or WWII?

Should we not go after those whose only aim in life is the death of us (I assume that includes you, too)?

If our forefathers had foresight and could see today, it might be written differently. Or if they were here today, then in hindsight, they might change it.

I really don't think you mean that America should only defend herself when it comes to her own soil. Seems like that would be a risk of "too little, too late".

But maybe I misunderstood your post, too.

Doesn't it scare you to agree with the likes of Michael Moore, Kerry and other Socialists?
6 posted on 05/01/2004 6:07:35 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: raysol
I'm confused. I wasn't until I read your post, but now that I've stop reading it, I'm okay again.
7 posted on 05/01/2004 6:07:45 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: raysol
Lay down the crack pipe, please.

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
http://12thman.us/media/jihad.rm (Requires RealPlayer)

Who is Steve Emerson?

8 posted on 05/01/2004 6:08:26 PM PDT by JCG
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To: raysol
A DU Sleeper Account?
9 posted on 05/01/2004 6:09:06 PM PDT by cmsgop ( It Puts The Lotion in the Basket or it gets the Hose Again........)
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To: raysol
Bring on the Viking Kitties
10 posted on 05/01/2004 6:09:21 PM PDT by John Will
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To: raysol
Let me edit this:
"The World has changed. Back then it didn't make sense to take the war to Britain"
I should probably have rephrased that.

They wrote that to make a point that America should not be the aggressor.

And in the War on Terror, we are not.

We are defending ourselves, and others who cannot defend themselves, from further onslaught.

I don't even see anything we have done as "pre emptive". Iraq had plenty of time to comply, and constantly did not. Shooting our aircraft in a no fly zone is a big no-no. We even had assistance from Iraqiis and other Islamic communities in remving Saddam and establishing a Govt there (in process). I guess I don't get your point. Maybe turn off CNN.

13 posted on 05/01/2004 6:12:36 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: raysol; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; MeekOneGOP; TheBigB; Constitution Day; mhking; ctlpdad; ...
*sniff sniff*

Izzat... ozone I smell?


15 posted on 05/01/2004 6:13:31 PM PDT by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: raysol
Hi! Im Larry Klayman......


16 posted on 05/01/2004 6:14:34 PM PDT by cmsgop ( It Puts The Lotion in the Basket or it gets the Hose Again........)
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To: raysol
I just looked over your posting history. I can't tell if you're a troll or a moron.
20 posted on 05/01/2004 6:17:59 PM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
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To: raysol; 4mycountry; Zavien Doombringer; trussell; jriemer; Constitution Day; William Martel; ...
Oh, let's just play my favorite game, "Stop The Tape!", and see what we've got...

Compare & contrast these 2 quotes given that our troops are in over 100 foreign lands(where we dont belong)

What quotes? Atrributed to Whom? You don't even mention who's quoted. I can only assume you mean James Monroe. Amazing that you quote the author of the Monroe Doctrine, who ADVOCATED US supremacy in the Western Hemisphere, as a bash attempt against the Bush Doctrine.

And as far as "Final Days" is concerned, a second-hand "quote" by a discredited quasi-journalist who made up Deep Throat, is hardly admissible.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue

Sounds a lot like the UN, to me...

Haigs presence then Secretary of State HK referred pointedly to military men as dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for our foreign policy.

And the classic Democrat tactic of accusing your opponents of what you already do.

You have been found wanting. Therefore I pronounce your doom:


30 posted on 05/01/2004 6:36:02 PM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: raysol
AMERICA,HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE.
34 posted on 05/01/2004 7:10:34 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: raysol
as wise as the Founding Fathers were, they were not prescient. they could not have imagined the world as it has become.

then, the US was a small and isolated nation, protected by wide oceans, with unlimited resources for its limited technological society.

today, the US is a vast country with immense technological requirements, whose security is no longer guaranteed by the oceans.

different realities must be faced with different strategies and tactics.

to do otherwise is to be a numbskull, and a suicide waiting to happen.

how about you stop waiting, and do it now?
just do us the favor of not insisting on taking the rest of us along for the ride, ok?
38 posted on 05/01/2004 9:36:31 PM PDT by King Prout (poets and philosophers should NEVER pretend to Engineering... especially SOCIAL Engineering!)
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To: raysol
Nice of you to post once in awhile in 2001, 13 times in 2002, once in all of 2003, and a grand total so far of 7 posts this year, three articles, and four replies.
And your last one is so incoherent and inconsistent that it makes me on my worst day of weird humor look like a cold concrete sane person.
So what's the story?
Agent provocateur?
49 posted on 05/03/2004 8:04:28 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: I call upon the gods of STERNO and MATCHLIGHT to take care of the evil DUers!)
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