Daily dumbest things said on DU- April 20, 2004

Defiantly Unintelligent | 4/20/04 | WinOne4TheGipper

[WinOne4TheGipper]

It's time again to head back to the bane of the internet- the Democratic Underground- to collect the stupidest, most ridiculous quotes. Here's my contribution...

In the following thread, BostonTeaParty04 attempts to make the argument that Rumsfeld extended the stay of duty of the national guard so that they wouldn't be able to tell of all the terrible things going on over there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1442679

However, there are a couple of problems with that. 1) Why in the hell would he allow the media to stay there, given that if you watch them, you're bound to go away believing that all is lost and 2) Most of what I've heard from soldiers reflects positively on the war effort. But, again, the DUmmies don't let facts stop a good anti- Bush rant.

[Michael.SF.]

Boortz proves to be right once again. He has often stated that the Liberals will fail in talk radio because their form of irrational thought will not be able to withstand scrutiny and questions from the audience. Further in the thread, one respondent makes this very valid point:

Doesn't the extension put them back in the US in August or September?

That's plenty of time to influence friends, family, and the election.

The original posting though ignores the fact that thousands, including my son, and another member of our church among them. No such horror stories have unfolded from them.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I have a feeling that those returning soldiers- if they can come back by then (because you never know what might happen between now and then- might affect the election, but not the way these people are hoping.

[Imal]

What I am hearing from family and friends in several states who themselves have family or friends returned from Iraq on leave or rotation is this:

Universally, without exception, every single one of them says things are much better in Iraq than reported, and they are frustrated with the negative tone of the news coverage there.

Iraq is a big country where an astounding number of positive things are occuring. However, the story Americans are presented with is that of a nation engulfed in daily violent conflict.

There are indeed places which are effectively war zones, but they make up a tiny fraction of Iraq as a whole. That is a fact that is only being reported by word of mouth.

Various interests see fit to continue attempting the Vietnamization of Iraq through negative news coverage and flagrant propagandizing, but they will eventually be exposed for the frauds that they are.

[RogerWilko]

Here's a real laugh I ran into today, this guy actually thought that DUmmyLand has 43,000 active members! A few of his comrades tried to set him straight, but I give Tom Paine the cigar for getting the closest estimate... He figured about 3,000 members!

Some of them thought it was good to leave the number up, because it looked impressive! What a joke!

I'll place an estimate of DEFINITELY less than 1,000!

rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-19-04 06:27 PM

Original message

A modest proposal about turning DU into a massive political force

Some people here have suggested turning DU into more than just a discussion forum, but also sort of a political action group. As a lead in to what I want to say, consider this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&a...

Someone posted the Zogby poll, and another DUer suggested that we send the Zogby poll to CNN and ask them what they're trying to pull.

I propose that we form some kind of political action core who would represent DU to the rest of the world. For example, on a matter such as this, our representatives could contact CNN and say (with our backing) "43,000 DUers are watching and we're on to you. We know you're lying and manipulating the polls... please stop". Considering that only about 2 million people watch CNN anyway, getting a letter on behalf of 43,000 people might have some impact on them. Furthermore, this might stop disruptors from registering here, because by expanding our numbers they only give our complaints more value.

We could do the same thing with some of our better ideas for the Kerry campaign.

In order to make it democratic, the ambassadors could create a special forum where they explain their activities, and conduct votes (in the form of the usual DU poll) to decide if we should collectively voice an opinion on an issue.

Lastly, if we implement such an arrangement, we would all be wise to invite our friends to join DU in order to swell our numbers and increase our powers of persuasion

[smadurski]

Heres one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1445483
MSgt213 (420 posts) Tue Apr-20-04 06:29 PM
Original message
Top Ten Reasons Terrorist Want Bush Re-Elected.

10. He thinks they are afraid of him.
9. Every foreign leader that supports him gets kicked out of office.
8. Every foreign leader that’s supports him and is still in office will be kicked out of office.
7. He attacks the wrong countries.
6. He saves them airfare since they don’t have to travel as far to kill Americans.
5. He is helping out by putting America in the deepest debt in history.
4. He has pissed of way more Arabs then the British.
3. No government on earth would trust anything he says.
2. He spends all his time in Crawford Texas.
1. As long as nobody slips up and tells him the time, place and method, they will never be stopped.

You also have got to see the pic on the first reply goes to show just how clueless the DUmmies are.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

DUmbasses will trust anything terrorists say. No one wants someone who will chase after them and kill them in any position of power. I'm starting to rethink the usefulness of this thread, but if even one undecided person sees it and is convinced that DU is full of loons, I guess I've done my job...

[Michael.SF.]

I have a feeling that those returning soldiers... might affect the election, but not the way these people are hoping.

Your absolutely right!.

Case in point: My son, who was on the Lincoln, said the news channel of choice was Fox. O'Riley was as must watch and that Colmes was frequently booed, when ever he spoke.

His guess was that the men and women on his ship were probably 80-20 pro Bush.

[smadurski]

I'm starting to rethink the usefulness of this thread,

Well I think it is fun to point out just how moronic the opposition is.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Anyone want to start todays thread? I'm going to be busy today...

[firebrand]

9. Every foreign leader that supports him gets kicked out of office.
8. Every foreign leader that’s supports him and is still in office will be kicked out of office.

Logic not their strong point.

[EllaMinnow]

Lookee here:
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BabsSong (514 posts) Wed Apr-21-04 10:17 PM
Original message
Is There Any Hope of Getting Iraq/Terror Off Front Page Before Nov.?


We really aren't seeing inaccuracies and fraud in a batch of recent polls---we are seeing what happens when all focus is off economy/jobs/healthcare, etc. and placed exclusively on war and terror. It really doesn't matter what the content of these war/terror/9-11 stories are (whether pro or con Bush). It's the subject matter. The media is delivering just what Rove wanted. About the only thing that might knock it all off the front page is if there is a sudden, massive drop in employment; and I have a feeling that isn't going to happen. June 30th and 9/11 report will keep the fires burning. Is it possible that at least by October the public will go back to it's Iraq sleepwalk and other issues will take over?? Is there any way the Dems can change the headlines?? Or, is there any possibility that somehow, finally the people will let more than the Iraq sights into their minds and actually hear the 'message' and get out of their Pavlov's dog response of supporting Bush every time they see GI's on their tv screen???