[Ogmios]

Science is limited, why is that such a problem for you?

Faith in God should be enough for you, for yourself, but science cannot place it's evidence in God, it cannot place it's faith in God, because it is not a tool designed for such use.

I am properly constraining science, for it cannot answer the question, what is God? Therefore it cannot use God as any sort of causation, and yes, it is therefore limited in it's scope.

It is a tool for a purpose, to add something to it that is unexplainable by it, is not just wasting it, but destroying any value that it has, as the tool that it is.

Science and human beings are limited, God is not, therefore to try and use something that is unlimited, in something that is limited, is pretty psychotic as far as I am concerned.

[r9etb]

Science is limited, why is that such a problem for you?

It's not a problem for me. All I'm doing is trying to clarify assumptions.

For example, you say that science "cannot use God as any sort of causation, and yes, it is therefore limited in its scope."

But again -- if God exists and created the universe, and I'm a scientist hammering away at the idea of what caused the universe, then I've got a real problem if I don't include God among the possible causes.

Now, I tend to agree with you when we discuss scientific stuff in a purely mechanical sense.