"TOM McSELFISH = Gov. BustaMENCHA"

9/14/2003 | ALOHA RONNIE Guyer

[ALOHA RONNIE]

NEVER FORGET

.."TOM McSELFISH =

...Gov. BustaMENCHA"

........was THE Sign to behold at this weekend's California Republican Convention held in Playa Del Rey next to the Los Angeles International Airport. So I did.

...No Convention Endorsement came for California Governor, but a posted Convention Straw Poll showed ARNOLD with nearly ..80%.. of the votes verses a little over ..18%.. for TOM McCLINTOCK.

...No one backed down this weekend, though it was hoped one Candidate for California Governor would, with Recall Election Financier Congressman ISSA watching it all unfold right before his very eyes.

Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Republican Convention Witness

NEVER FORGET

[exmarine]

The Republican Party is in transition to being more like the Democrat Party. Teh Fairness Doctrine bill is a prime example - it is a violation of free speech. Yet the Repub. Congress doesn't even have the votes to override Bush's veto. See my post #339 for other reasons why Republican Party no longer represents my interests. It is a true waste of a vote to vote for ANY candidate that does not understand or respesct the Law of the Land - the U.S. Constitution.

[SONbrad]

You addressed it to ALL you stupid idiot. That includes EVERYONE. I thought you had a college education. JEEZ!

[exmarine]

Hey SONbrad, you are clearly a liberal trying to masquerade as a conservative. Your views and comments have exposed you for that. Go back to the Rainbow Coalition and tell them that REAL conservatives want nothing to do with their moral relativism.

[SONbrad]

Excuse me????? I favor racial quotas? When did I say that? YOU assumed it because I am black. You rascist BIGOT! Get out of my face with that crap. You are showing your true colors and they are ugly ones.

I am SO glad that most conservatives are NOT like you! We can be the party of inclusion if you allow it to be. That is what we should be and what are savior would WANT us to be. HE was mush more inclusive than you.

HE would be ashamed of YOU!

Good day, Mr. BIGOT. I do not do business with people such as you!

[SONbrad]

Once again your rascist, bigoted response. Rainbow Coalition? YOU are the reason that Democrats get 90% or more of the black vote.

Good day, You Rascist Bigot. You do not merit any additional responses. You have shown your true colors which are WHITE MAN ONLY!

[Tamzee]

Thank you kindly for pointing out the article :-)

[exmarine]

You seem to have an inferiority complex of some sort. I said no racist thing at all. Go take a Zoloft before you wet yourself.

[exmarine]

YOu said you favored the gathering of racial information (you oppose prop. 54) which is used in racial quotas. Busted!

[exmarine]

Once again your rascist

It's "racist" not "rascist" - don't you know how to spell? How does it feel to have someone nitpick your every word for grammar or spelling?

[exmarine]

Once again your rascist, bigoted response. Rainbow Coalition? YOU are the reason that Democrats get 90% or more of the black vote.

Jesse Jackson is the racist and bigot. The Rev. Jesse Peterson agrees with me on that (he's black). African-Americans are being held down by democrats and liberals and shakedown artists like Jackson and they don't even know it. What a shame...

[Tamzee]

No wonder you don't support Arnold, you have no idea what his stances really are :-)
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Arnold is NOT ambivalent about closing the borders to new illegals.

Arnold DOES agree with government cuts and has hammered on it CONSTANTLY.

Arnold HAS PLEDGED not to increase taxes except for in the event of a natural disaster or terrorist attack.

Arnold has REPEATEDLY condemned over-regulation of businesses in California and has even proposed litigation reform.

Arnold has promised not to sign a new budget unless it has WORKERS' COMPENSATION REFORM.

Arnold has also promised to ROLL BACK THE CAR TAX...

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Each and every "fact" that you spouted about Arnold is either unspeakably ignorant of his platform or deliberate lies.

I support Arnold because he is MASSIVELY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN SOCIALIST BUSTAMANTE... the only two candidates with a chance of winning. Why do you support McClintock when your vote for him adds more power to Bustamante... the candidate who pushes god-hating and America-hating extreme liberalism?

[68 grunt]

I am here only to support Arnold, and to gladly suffer the slings and arrows of your abuse.

[68 grunt]

I contend that of you. I have not attacked one person who has made their opinion politely. I'm only on the case of the x-tremes. I'm encouraging them to find a mountaintop to defend, but not on my mountain range.

[SONbrad]

You should be ashamed of yourselves to have someone like "ex-marine" in your midst. He is a racist bigot. This is not the party that will attract black conservatives.

Notice that only AFTER he found out that I was black did he say "now the truth comes out".

When he realized that he was showing his true colors then he said "I don't care what color you are!" Please! He is such a bigot he can not hide it.

He ASSUMES that I am a member of the "Rainbow Coalition". Why? Because I am black. He just can not help himself making racist comments and I have had it with his type of "conservatism".

I have friends that are white, black, asian....liberal and conservative. Veterans and non-veterans. It makes no difference to me. But this "man" is beyond redemption.

Since I stated that I am for collecting racial information (I stated it was for profiling for criminal, i.e. terrorist, actions) he ASSUMES that I am for racial quotas! Why? Because I am black!

This man is a poor pathetic race-hater and race-baiter. I expect more from my party (Republican..whether he believes it or NOT!) than people such as this. I am ashamed of him.

[EllaMinnow]

exmarine isn't a Republican.

[Maelstrom]

I sincerely Thank You for bringing the debate back to the issues.

I've heard these stands before. Let's investigate them:

"Arnold is NOT ambivalent about closing the borders to new illegals. "

Arnold is not ambivalent about denying illegals services for which Californians pay. He's in full support of their continuing free ride.

As far as his closing the borders go, yes, he's made contradictory statements one of which began: "Well it's a complicated issue..."

"Arnold DOES agree with government cuts and has hammered on it CONSTANTLY. "

His 'agreement' is deeply undercut with his very vocal support for additional government programs as well as his past support for additional government entitlements.

"Arnold has REPEATEDLY condemned over-regulation of businesses in California and has even proposed litigation reform."

He has done so totally without specifics. Remember it was half-assed deregulation that lead to California's power crisis.

"Arnold has promised not to sign a new budget unless it has WORKERS' COMPENSATION REFORM. "

Workers' compensation reform can take 2 paths. One of those paths increases government intervention. Arnold has not been specific about what his reforms might be so that we could judge which path he's on.

"Arnold has also promised to ROLL BACK THE CAR TAX... "

Whoopee...it doesn't need to be rolled back. It needs to be ELIMINATED.

If any of these issues truly concerned you, McClintock offers better solutions, specific decisions, and clearer stands.

[Maelstrom]

I don't believe he was replying to the part about you being black in his response.

Maybe it was must my reading of his statement.

This is the bit that could have lead him to his conclusion:

"Just like you bible-thumpers are doing to gay people today!

By the way, do you or don't you believe that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL?"

The derogatory term "bible-thumper" insults a great many conservatives. Conservatives aren't "doing" anything to "gay people", they're trying to protect families against what is, to many people, a mental disorder gaining acceptance only through political manipulation.

All people are created equal. What they do with their lives changes that balance. Government is the only entity that should not discriminate based upon the choices people have made with their lives.

I don't think you and exmarine need to be at each others' throats on this issue. If I'm wrong, and he was purely referring to your skin color...then I'm wrong, and you're right and I will apologize.

[thoughtomator]

At this point, all that can be said has been said, except to tell the Arnold brownshirts to take a hike and find another website.

THIS site is for conservatives, for the Constitution, and against corruption. If they don't like it, they can take their mottled hides elsewhere.

[ohioWfan]

SONbrad......exmarine is NOT a nice person. He hides behind his 'Christianity' to scream out his angry political views. As much as is possible, ignore everything he says, because he obviously gets his jollies from hurting people and lording his 'spirituality' over them.

I thank God that he is NOT a Republican, and that YOU are.

I have read your posts on this thread, and I have nothing but respect for your intellect, and your ability to reason.

You are WELCOME by this Republican, and I am proud to have you in MY party!

[Texas Eagle]

If Bill Back had won last year in the CRP election, I would not believe what I do.

I know Bill Back. Outstanding man.