Posted on 09/04/2003 8:51:55 AM PDT by Polycarp
My anger over the pathological nature of "legal" baby killing and the individuals on these threads who see Hill's crime as somehow "worse" than that of the baby killers has led me to say things on these threads that I don't really believe, just to point out the rank hypocrisy and stupidity of certain posters on these threads.
I've made my points. I'll stop using bitter sarcasm and cynicism now and state clearly:
1)Hill murdered an abortionist, and deserved the punishment meeted out to him by the state. The state has the right, recognized in 2000 years of Christian moral theology, to impose capital punishment. But In all honesty, I have reservations about the death penalty.
2) Abortion may be "legal" but it is still a crime against humanity. Though it would be unjust to try them, by ex-post-facto prosecution once abortion is again made illegal, abortionists still must pay some measure of justice for their crimes. Revoking their licences and general social ostracizing would be minimum and insufficient justice.
3) Vigiliante "justice" and ex-post-facto law cannot be tolerated in a civil society. However, neither can judicial tyrrany and legislation by judicial fiat. Civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat is not now unwarranted. However, it may in the future be necessary. In the context of innevitable future civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat it is very likely that certain individuals might engage in vigilantism and ex-post-facto justice. Don't say I didn't tell you so.
4)In the current situation of pathological legalized violence in the form of "legal" baby murdering, everyone must understand that violence will always beget more violence, outside of the abortion clinics. Expect more cases like Hill. It is axiomatic that the violence of "legal" abortion will beget further violence, usually among the intellectually/emotionally/psychologically unstable.
5) Because it is axiomatic that violence, even the violence of "legal" abortion, will always beget further violence, it is evidence of gross ignorance of human nature and Natural Law that certain folks express surprise and dismay at the actions of someone like Hill.
6) Furthermore, to express more outrage at Hill's crime than the pathological violence ("legal" abortion) that precipitated Hill's crime is a symptom of a culture that has completely lost its moral compass and is on the straight and narrow path to self destruction.
Interesting that...they seem to retain the right to vote despite their infirmities. It would seem you have failed to answer the question despite your reply.
No, they don't.
Well you settled that one with all the panache and erudition we've come to expect.
Well, that's easy for you to say; you've already been born. It might be harder though, for you to convince a 9-year old who was scheduled to be hacked to death that day.
if Saddam's mom had had the abortion she wanted, thousands of Iraqis and others would be alive.
Did Saddam's mom want to kill him? I didn't know that. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but your answer is not on point for the simple reason that it is wrong to murder the innocent, and before Saddam was born he had not yet done anything good or bad.
Cordially,
No, my argument is that it's ridiculous for the government to say: "You can shred small children into bits with a suction machine but you can't shoot adults" and still expect to be taken seriously.
Then this thread wasn't the proper place for your #271 as this thread has nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment or recent judicial decisions. And you might want to read through the thread before you say you are "with" the author.
So you'd like to abolish both abortion laws and laws against murder/homicide of adults?
Thank you, I will.
That was meant as a joke, right? The "Old-Fashioined-Way" would be to kill those that oppose you. LOL!
Civil disobedience how? You mean like blocking entrances to private property? This isn't like going into a "whites only" restaurant or not sitting at the back of the bus. What do you think people would do?
Why it's not being done on a massive scale right now, I don't know.
Becuse most rational people don't want to be hauled off to jail. Seriously, do you envision millions of Americans forming a "human chain" around abortion clinics? Putting up baricades?
I'm afraid we've thrown too many pearls before these FR swine already, wideawake.
But I particularly like this pearl.
Nay, nay FRiend. You rest on a distinction without difference. While there is indeed a continuum of stridency with the animal-rights types, you don't see them going out of their way to condemn their own. Rather, they keep silent with regard to their more fervent compatriots. It should be clear to anyone with any sense of realpolitic that whether the subject is Palestinians, socialism, animal-rights, environmentalism, the religion of piece, public education, or any of the other issues to the left...attempting to curry the favor of the enemy in hopes of seeming 'reasonable' is a losing proposition.
I'm not sure if your inability to draw logical inferences from my posts is intentional or cognitive.
Be that as it may, I have already posted that I oppose the government arbitrarily deciding that certain classes of persons have a Constitutional right to life and that others do not.
Our Constitution guarantees a right to life and I want to see it consistently applied to all.
From his screed:
6) Furthermore, to express more outrage at Hill's crime than the pathological violence ("legal" abortion) that precipitated Hill's crime is a symptom of a culture that has completely lost its moral compass and is on the straight and narrow path to self destruction.
You agree that there should be "degress of outrage" over premeditated murder? Look, this vanity is a not-so-well disguised support for the "righteous murder" of abortion doctors. The Hill supporters can twist their words however they want, but most people see their underlying position.
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