Researcher's Study of Twins Bolsters 'Gateway Theory' (For Early Marijuana Use)

Medscape ^ | 2003 | Brown University Behavior Letter

[ActionNewsBill]

You were so stupid that you tried to call me to task for a typo and be condescending about it.

Here is what you said...

Is president Bush a liberal?

The topic we were on was "libertarians", and you asked about liberals.

Don't try to weasel your way out of admitting that you don't know the difference between the two.

Even you can't be that ignorant, can you?

[cinFLA]

Are William F. Buckley and George P. Schultz libertarians? I suggest you email them and tell them the news.

Why email Buckley. He already knows that he is a libertarian.

"In Happy Days Were Here Again: Reflections of a Libertarian Journalist (pb) William F. Buckley makes known his thoughts on events, both current and past from a libertarian perspective"

[ActionNewsBill]

Tell you what, why don't you tell me the difference between a liberal and a libertarian again....

You've been here almost three years, and you still don't know the difference? I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

...pothead.

That's right. What are you going to do about it? Arrest me, or just keep whining?

[presidio9]

Man are you dense. You still don't get it. Of course I know the difference between liberals and libertarians. President Bush agrees with men when it comes to keeping drugs outlawed. Libertarians like yourself think keeping drugs outlawed is a liberal policy. I asked I the poster (who I am guessing is seriously not appreciating your "help" right about now) if being against drugs made the President a liberal. Do you need me to use smaller words?

[presidio9]

You've been here almost three years, and you still don't know the difference? I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

I am mocking you dude. Sarcasm. Look into it.

[cinFLA]

Libertarian party endorse J. Elders:

"Elders is joining a long list of intelligent, reputable Americans who advocate examining drug legalization," noted Dasbach."

[ActionNewsBill]

Well I guess it's long past time to let this thread die.

It sure has been fun chatting with you folks, but I must be moving on to another thread, since there is nothing left to be said here.

You've been a great audience, and don't forget to tip your waitress.

Thank you and Good Night.

[presidio9]

Well I guess it's long past time to let this thread die.

I realize that you are jonesing for your fix real bad right about now, but it is not your decision to make when a thread should die. There are plenty of us who intend on continuing to bump this thread for quite some time.

[presidio9]

Coward.

Hardly. I'm just intelligent enough not to bump an article I disagree with. You have yet to acquire that skill.

[PaxMacian]

I did not write that I believed in the churchs I listed.
I simply listed them to refute anothers post.

[PaxMacian]

Ashcroft says he is deeply committed to safeguarding civil liberties from long-term encroachments. "Our rights don't come from government. They come from God," he told evangelical leaders. "We work hard for security, but we don't abandon liberty."

He doesn't want to abandon liberty, just curtail it.

[cinFLA]

I simply listed them to refute anothers post.

To do so would indicate that you consider their position on marijuana to be more important than:

Saint Flynt

Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler Magazine is a true hero and a saint. Larry Flynt has always stood up for free speech and free expression, often to the point of landing him in jail. Larry always has and still is being pursued by forces who would take away our liberties and freedoms. As depicted in the movie, "The People vs. Larry Flynt", Larry took the case of free speech to the United States Supreme Court and won his case against the Reverend Jerry Falwell who sued him over Hustler's fake ad indicating that Falwell had sex with his mother. If not for Larry Flynt's victory, the Church of Reality wouldn't be able to publish the truth on the web like we do today.

[cinFLA]

The Church of Reality

" An Alternative Theory

The alternative theory to Noah and the Ark is that it never happened. It's just a story that just isn't true. 4000 years ago people believed the world was flat and that the sky and the clouds went up forever. They didn't know how high mountains were and how much water it took to cover them. They thought that a big flood could cover the Earth and the water would evaporate or run off somewhere. They were wrong.

The alternative theory is that it's just a story and has no more basis in truth than any other fairy tale. No reasonable person could believe this is true.

[cinFLA]

The Church of Reality

The First Nun of the Church of Reality

[tacticalogic]

MrLeroy will be very disappointed that you feel his posts are not worthy of being read.

That's not something that's going to happen to me. But then, finding flaws in the article is not finding flaws in the study, and you can't seem to tell the difference there, either.

[cinFLA]

That's not something that's going to happen to me. But then, finding flaws in the article is not finding flaws in the study, and you can't seem to tell the difference there, either.

Perhaps you should explain why you are responding to 111 which is critical of the study, not the article. Or do you agree that the study is ok?

[tacticalogic]

Perhaps you should explain why you are responding to 111 which is critical of the study, not the article. Or do you agree that the study is ok?

My first response to this thread was to 657, however if you read 111, you'll note that the criticism was of the study as described. The criticism is of the description of the study, not the study itself. There isn't enough information in the article to make a determination about the soundness of the study one way or another, IMHO.

[cinFLA]

hmmm... Seems like he is criticizing the study. hmmm

"A twin test correctly done would help to rule out the latter if it showed that the drug use or non-use of one twin tended to parallel that of the other, widely separated, twin. This would demonstrate that there could be something inherent in a predisposition to drug use. As described, the experiment did not do this. It simply showed that if a person started using drugs at an early age, he tended to use other drugs later and that if a person didn't start using drugs at an early age, he wasn't using them later. This still doesn't mean, though, that anyone is inherently predisposed by non-environmental factors to start using drugs."

[cinFLA]

Oh, brother!!!

You mean that you don't believe kids are lured into activities only because the activity is illegal?

[cinFLA]

you'll note that the criticism was of the study as described.

Right! "criticism was of the study".