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To: Maelstrom
Your buddies opposed it and are now trying to hi-jack the effort.

My "buddies"? Surely you don't think I am pals with all 193 other candidates on the ballot, do you?

Now, I supported the recall, and I support it still. But as it has been repeatedly pointed out, the recall couldn't have qualified had there not been widespread support far beyond only the conservatives. The conservatives may have "bought" the recall, all Davis lackeys would say, but they do not own it.
It belongs to all Californians, and it seems like that's the part that you're not getting here.


In California...the "far right" doesn't have even a tenuous grip on the Republican party.

I beg to differ. I consider the "far-right" to be anyone whose main issue is abortion and social issues. So to distinguish from mainstream conservatives are concerned primarily with economics/fiscal policy.
If the the "far right" didn't hold the party at gun-point, then why did a proven hands-on fiscal manager like Riordan lose out to a light-weight delegater like Simon in the primary, all due to his stance on abortion?


It's funny to see you Liberals..."

So in my time here I've been called everything from a shill for McClintock, to a shill for Arnold/Karl Rove, from being a political operator to being an amateur, from being a pragmatist to a "RINO", to now even a liberal.

Looks like you've tried attacking me from every angle.
Great! That only proves my effect.

653 posted on 08/13/2003 1:41:53 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
I beg to differ. I consider the "far-right" to be anyone whose main issue is abortion and social issues. So to distinguish from mainstream conservatives are concerned primarily with economics/fiscal policy.

You obviously don't know a thing about what the mainstream of the GOP is. You're too busy paddling about in the inlet where the sewage overflow pipe enters the river.

In 2000 the delegates to the National Convention, chosen by the activists in their own states, were overwhelmingly pro-life--well over 90% would be my fairly well-educated guess. In addition to being pro-life, that same group of people have a solid grasp of conservative economics, unlike yourself.

It is you and Arnold and Riordon that are out of step.

656 posted on 08/13/2003 1:50:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
Great! That only proves my effect.

Yes, you have been quite effective at illustrating the faulty thought-patterns of liberals.

My thanks.

657 posted on 08/13/2003 1:51:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
So in my time here I've been called everything from a shill for McClintock, to a shill for Arnold/Karl Rove, from being a political operator to being an amateur, from being a pragmatist to a "RINO", to now even a liberal.

I noticed that.

For some its easier to name-call than to exert themselves mentally.


659 posted on 08/13/2003 2:00:37 PM PDT by mac_truck (Bill Simon, the other California conservative)
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