To: Sabertooth
You're still claiming to be from California? That you understand California politics? How is it that you don't know who Bill Jones is, and his relevance to to the botched Bush/Rove attempt to annoint Dick Riordan as the GOP's California gubernatorial nominee?
You asked "whatever happened to Bill Jones?"
If he's disappeared off the radar enough for you to have to ask, then why do you expect me to know who he is?
Take a random poll in California to see how much name recognition he has.
I have a pretty good grasp on the political atmosphere and perceptions of the general public here. That may just be precisely because I'm not distracted by all the inside baseball.
To: DrMartinVonNostrand
You asked "whatever happened to Bill Jones?"
If he's disappeared off the radar enough for you to have to ask, then why do you expect me to know who he is?
Because up at #556 (as well as throughout this thread), you posted pretensions of knowing what you're talking about in regard to California politics, and the GOP's gubernatorial nomination of 2002...
Simon came up on Riordan because Gray Davis spent millions in advertising to influence conservatives in the Republican primary. The recall election is not a Republican primary.
Moderates cannot survive the primary and conservatives cannot survive the general election.
GOP moderates haven't survived at the top of the state ticket in the last four election cycles, either. I'm talking about Senatorial, Gubernatorial, and Presidential candidates. Why do you suppose that is? How does that impact your analysis? Can you name them?
Which faction within the GOP got this recall on the ballot, and which faction misjudged the public mood, and opposed this effort?

600 posted on
08/13/2003 11:33:58 AM PDT by
Sabertooth
(Where do Arnold and McClintock stand on California Drivers' Licenses for Illegal Aliens?)
To: DrMartinVonNostrand
"If he's disappeared off the radar enough for you to have to ask, then why do you expect me to know who he is? "
Ah...then you're a teenager without any understanding of what happened yesterday.
He supported a Liberal, and Liberal policies. As he had enough clout, he was one of the primary reasons you don't have a conservative in office today.
He was a RINO.
Like Riordan.
Like Arnold.
Like yourself.
As I said earlier, Freepers have a memory that is longer than the typical gnat. Thus, we know how Bill Jones is...and you do not.
Freepers have an attention span longer than the typical 5-yr. old. Thus, we know what Bill Jones did...and you do not.
Yet somehow...without knowledge, without history, without understanding...you seem to feel your argument has merit.
*bzzzzzzzt*
608 posted on
08/13/2003 11:54:29 AM PDT by
Maelstrom
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