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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
But I didn't misrepresent the establishment clause.

Certainly you did. Concurrent with the drafting and ratification of the COnstitution several of the states did indeed have state religions. The states wanted protection from a national religion, a la King George and his merry men, and thus the establishment clause.

That's a fact Doc. Deal with it.

It is the religious right that misrepresents it, acting as though the flagrant use of "God" is within Constitutionality because it doesn't endorse "a" religion, since as they say "God" is represented in several religions.

Religious right, left or atheist, the voluntary use of the word God is a self evident right I would think. What philosophy is it that you adhere to than bans free speech in the public square?

What they manage to obscure though, of course, is that "God" is exclusively the deity of what can only be described as the greater Abrahamic religion.

So what?

337 posted on 08/12/2003 6:23:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Religious right, left or atheist, the voluntary use of the word God is a self evident right I would think. What philosophy is it that you adhere to than bans free speech in the public square?

That is a strawman argument. I never said a thing about "involuntary" invocation in the "public square".

Here I thought we were discussing Governmental endorsement of a narrow religious set, as on Government buildings, on federal currency, and as shoved into the Pledge by Congress in 1954.

349 posted on 08/12/2003 6:45:00 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: jwalsh07
Religious right, left or atheist, the voluntary use of the word God is a self evident right I would think. What philosophy is it that you adhere to than bans free speech in the public square?

That is a strawman argument. I never said a thing about "involuntary" invocation in the "public square".

Here I thought we were discussing Governmental endorsement of a narrow religious set, as on Government buildings, on federal currency, and as shoved into the Pledge by Congress in 1954.

354 posted on 08/12/2003 6:45:38 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: jwalsh07
Religious right, left or atheist, the voluntary use of the word God is a self evident right I would think. What philosophy is it that you adhere to than bans free speech in the public square?

That is a strawman argument. I never said a thing about "voluntary" invocation in the "public square".

Here I thought we were discussing Governmental endorsement of a narrow religious set, as on Government buildings, on federal currency, and as shoved into the Pledge by Congress in 1954. ---------------------------------------

This is a repost since I mistakenly wrote "involuntary" on the original.

360 posted on 08/12/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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