[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Alright, I'm I just had to come back to take you apart a bit further.

None of Arnold's friends have suggested that he would switch parties. Tom Arnold, a staunch Democrat, said he thinks Arnold *should* switch parties. That is the closest thing anyone that I know of has said on the matter. And there is no way he will become a Democrat with the sort of attacks he is now facing from them. They do not like people who challenge their power. Arnold is doing that bigtime right now.

I don't think he'll raise taxes. He's smart to not come out and say he won't, though, since sometimes it can't be avoided. He learned that lesson from his friend George H.W. Bush. And if Arnold were to raise taxes, that would not damage the image of entire party, just as George H.W. Bush's tax raising adventure didn't either. No one said "those damn Republicans, always raising taxes!" afterwards.

Now granted, I of course am only jumping to conclusions when I say I don't think Arnold will raise taxes, but still, it is far less a ridiculous conclusion than the one you have made that Arnold would endorse Barbara Boxer!

Arnold has always endorsed Republicans. Even though he has endorsed Riordan in the past, at least there is 2 degrees of seperation there.

The Governor CAN'T end Prop 13. If he could, a Democrat would have a long time ago. Are you actually suggesting that we are safer right now with Gray Davis than we would be with Arnold? Get real!

Arnold isn't going to BAN guns either. There is something about a 2nd Ammendment. Maybe you've heard of it. Now if you're talking about the ASSAULT rifle ban, then your not going to get much traction in a largely urban state. Go hang out with Howard Dean in Vermont if assault rifles are your thing.

And I am in fact in California. San Francisco Bay Area, to be exact.

Now what really pisses me off are these attacks on me personally about being "anti-Constitution".

What you're talking about here is the state Constitution. Your context was very inflamatory and misleading. Not to mention your analysis was dead wrong.

*I* didn't claim the recall was illegitimate. I signed the damn petition. I was actively involved in supporting the effort. What I said was that if Bill Simon won the replacement election, he would be chastised as being an "illegitimate election stealer". The liberals and the media wouldn't shutup about that until every last Republican is shamed into never voting again.

Bill Simon winning would lead to a long period of Republican bashing worse than anything seen to date. He was already an embarassment to begin with the first time around as it was.

Arnold however would not cast such a stygma on Republicans, and would help allieviate much of the one that hangs over them now.

In conclusion, I think you are probably one of those rightwing reactionary types who would be best served by moving to Vermont where the far-right and far-left look identical.

[EternalVigilance]

'Amendment' only has two 'm's, not three.

Even if you don't support it, you should learn to spell it, at a minimum.

[William Tell]

DrMartinVonNostrand said: "Arnold isn't going to BAN guns either. There is something about a 2nd Ammendment. Maybe you've heard of it. Now if you're talking about the ASSAULT rifle ban, then your not going to get much traction in a largely urban state. Go hang out with Howard Dean in Vermont if assault rifles are your thing. "

Yeah...I've heard about the Second Amendment. One of the recent things I heard from the Kalifornia Supreme Court is that it does not apply to individuals.

Your comments about "assault weapons" ( You did mean "assault weapons" and not "assault rifles", didn't you?) tells me a lot about why you are able to support Arnold and gun control. You have been convinced that it is a legitimate role of government to decide which arms I may have.

First, it was the federally defined "assault weapons" that I may not own. Then it was the Roberti-Roos "assault weapons" that I may not own. Then it was the SB-23 "assault weapons" that I may not own. Soon it will be the Schwarzenegger "assault weapons" that I may not own.

Please tell me why you think that firearms that are legal to keep and bear in Vermont should be illegal in Kalifornia. Is the Second Amendment really so meaningless to you?

[nickcarraway]

Now what really pisses me off are these attacks on me personally about being "anti-Constitution". What you're talking about here is the state Constitution. Your context was very inflamatory and misleading.

The recall is a legalpart of California government. Why are you concerned that recall is illegitimate, but voter fraud is not. You should be calling Davis an "illegitimate election stealer," not a Republican, because the margin he won by was less thean the number of illegal votes cast. Why doesn't voter fraud concern you?

The same people will call Schwarzenegger an ``illegal lection stealer,'' than would call any other Republican that. Those are the same people who say President Bush is an ``illegal election stealer.'' I don't listen to those people like you do, I believe President Bush is our legitimately elected president, do you?

[nickcarraway]

I have two questions for you:

1> You support Schwarzenegger, but you do you know his last name? You seem to exclusively refer to him as Arnold, but he actually has a last name.

2.How come in your post, you go to great lengths to avoid mention of Tom McClintock? Very suspicous. And McClintock is not a social conservative, he is a fiscal conservative and a social Libertarian.

[nickcarraway]

In conclusion, I think you are probably one of those rightwing reactionary types who would be best served by moving to Vermont where the far-right and far-left look identical.

Sorry, I am staying right here in California. I didn't personally attack you, but you had to personally attack me, since your ideas didn't hold up. Would you call President Bush a ``rightwing reactionary types ?'' Are you just another Bush-basher?

[nickcarraway]

If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area (whic I do), how can you explain why 560AM is so popular.

[nickcarraway]

The White House didn't want the recall at all. Their best bet is if Davis was still in office- the voters would take nout their anger in the presidential election. But the recall is here now. I hope Schwarzenegger would support Bush in the presidential race, but there is no way of telling.

By the way, I think Bush will win in California- if he has a solid lead across the country. Californians often vote for the winner. In the last election, the blown Flordia call cost Bush a chance at California. But if Bush is clearly going to win the election, I think he will take California.