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To: Aric2000
This is called Puncuated equilibria.

Gould and Eldredge came up with the theory to be a part of evolutionary theory, NOT separate from it, it is a minor piece as well, because it does help explain some of the sudden appearances of some species in the fossil record, and does not at all discredit phyletic gradualism.

Could you re-read what you posted above? You are saying that gradualism can be both sudden and gradual. It's like saying that black can be white. Evolutionists really need to make up their minds what the theory of evolution really is and stop saying that everything is evolution because we say so.

In actual fact though, Gould's saltationism is the biggest admission by someone who believes in evolution that evolution is false. Darwin had more than one reason to say that evolution was gradual. One of which was to distinguish it from creation. Another was because he knew that he could not justify sudden random changes of entire species. So actually Gould, while trying to save evolution destroyed it.

2,177 posted on 08/09/2003 10:59:43 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: gore3000
He did nothing of the kind, you are reading into it far more then it is.

There is NO problem with BOTH Phyletic Gradualism, and Puncuated equilibria.

It is obvious that you do not really know what Gould and Eldredge were actually saying.

There were species that did gradually change, Phyletic Gradualism, and then they were saying that there were SOME species that rapidly changed, due to geologic isolation, climate change etc, which necessitated that quick change in order to survive.

There is NO problem with BOTH being in the theory, they do NOT contradict each other, nor do they somehow disprove evolution.

You are the one reading that into it, but I expect that from you, you're a certified ID'r(not namecalling, just stating what I believe to be a fact, if I am wrong in that assumption, please correct me).
2,184 posted on 08/09/2003 11:07:08 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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