Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL! Thank you oh so very much for the kudos and support! Hugs!

[Doctor Stochastic]

(Speaking as a spectator), your mediation was absolutely fair and equitable. One may legitimately find fault with the agreement itself, but that has nothing to do with the mediation process.

[AndrewC]

Thank you.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you oh so very much for your vote of confidence! Hugs!

[Aric2000]

Oh no you don't, you can't get out of a job that you do so well.

I for one find your "fair and balanced" way of doing things a breath of fresh air.

I for one will NOT vote for anyone else but you being the moderator. You are one of the fairest people that I have ever seen.

You are also one of the most patient, I would have lost it quite a few times during this whole thing.

Nope, you are stuck with the job as far as I am concerned, You do NOT show favoritism to either side and do the utmost to make sure that you are fair to all sides. The best things to find in any mediator!!

Megahugs from this evo AG!!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Since you're not in compliance with the agreement, why do you care?

Isn't your tagline in violation of article 5?

(Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)

5. Language Restraint We will not use obscene or belittling words to describe another complying poster or whatever that poster believes; however, merely factual or logical criticism and rebuttal shall never be considered "obscene or belittling."

Don't post to me anymore unless you intend to comply with the agreement.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you oh so very much for vote of confidence, Aric2000! Hugs!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

Er, I believe this objection was addressed on the drafting thread when gore3000 explained that he meant that there are intelligent people who do not believe in evolution, not that there aren't intelligent people who do believe in evolution. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that recollection, gore3000!

But if I am right, then since this is the second time the tagline has been taken to mean something else --- perhaps you'll want to reword it.

[Aric2000]

Come On Andrew, just say it was me. we know who it was that told Whathisface to quit with the crap, it was me.

I followed the full letter and principle of the agreement.

I was waiting for it, YES, I knew it was coming, YES, and I jumped him as soon as I saw what he was doing, YES.

And I kept within the full letter and principle of the agreement, an agreement that he tried to "trick" us into signing onto, while keeping himself unfettered.

So sorry, doesn't wash with me, I will keep to the agreement, no doubts of that, but when a noncomplying poster IMMEDIATELY tries to incite a flamewar, then you shut it down, and shut it down HARD. Which is EXACTLY what I did. Within the confines of the agreement.

He wanted to get a flamewar going so that he could hit us over the head with the agreement. That was his goal and continues to be his goal. He started the agreement for nothing less then to tie our hands, while keeping his free to stab and start flamewars while we remained defensless unless we wished to break the agreement.

That particular poster is on HARD, TOTAL, and ABSOLUTE Virtual ignore. No freepmail will be read, no post will be responded to, and why, because that poster is an unmitigated troll. History shows this, and current history, the first day after the agreement went into effect shows this.

The man tried to trap us, and then went on to do what he does best. To see your side actually defending such behavior is absolutely amazing to me, then to see some of his "I am as pure as the wind driven snow" posts is even MORE amazing. The unmitigated gall of such posts, and the absolute ignoring of the history of said poster is not only amazing, but very telling as far as I am concerned.

And to say that a transistor is 2 diodes back to back is far too simplistic, it should be 2 diodes, each with a switch back to back create a transistor, and that is still FAR too simplistic, it should actually be 2 SCR's back to back make a transistor.

Then again, maybe I am just being too nitpicky..;)

[AndrewC]

Come On Andrew, just say it was me.

I will give you the opportunity to read posts 2569 and 2573 before I respond further.

[f.Christian]

Virtual barf alert !

The basis of all dysfunctional things requires a strong misplaced focus and a censorship - denial system ... social autism --- cults !

These are very antithetical to democracy ... freedom --- science too !

Anything esoteric should not be in science or politics !

Conforming reality to a false belief system and forbidding scrutiny should not become law or public policy !

This is the formula - mo of cults - ideology ... esp evolution --- which should not become an established forced cult like it is practiced now !

It is a travesty --- a total fallacy to conform physical sciences to only a subjective human frame of reference ... evolution has become a form of tribalism --- canibalism --- mindnaping --- slavery !

Troll overlords on the march alert !

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up! I consider the matter closed as well subject to either of you having an issue to be resolved.

[Aric2000]

Good enough, Done deal. Closed...

[f.Christian]

orc patrol - watch !

It' s a travesty --- a total fallacy to conform physical sciences to only a subjective * animal * - * material * frame of reference ... evolution has become a form of tribalism --- canibalism --- mindnaping --- slavery !

Troll overlords on the march alert !

[ALS]

extreme bloviation placemurky

[f.Christian]

Like I said ... I signed on to the agreement just to see if the evos could discuss their beliefs w / o a blowout --- impossible !

[ALS]

Apparently, they and those who support them see the agreement as a method of sanctioning the very same behaviors which gave rise to the agreement.
Even to the extent they now wish to seek immunity from criticism of said behavior. Imagine if these clowns participated in the Constitution.

Power corrupts, imagined power corrupts absolutely.

The bottom line is popularity amongst each other. Facts, truth, history, all take a back seat to the heathenistic temporal pleasure orgy that will culminate in a self implosion. There could have been an honest agreement, but evil would not have it.

honor among thieves
comradery among clowns

[f.Christian]

controll freaks know your placemaker placemaker !

[f.Christian]

Another proof of evolution ...

people who jump off of park benches survive (( trial and error )) ---

the one's (( design - success )) off of bridges die !

No wonder evolution persists ... it has an inherent protection from reality - proof system ---

dumbness very seldom reaches any cause - effect ... just pepetuates endless anarchy - futility ---

losers are winners (( two headed coins )) --- junk science !

This unusable artifacts - tautology gets recycled by loons - professors in museums - ivory towers - castles (( dungeons for their detractors )) !

[Aric2000]

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