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Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution
Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

Posted on 07/24/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT by Mr.Atos

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?


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To: ThinkPlease
Point of View Placemarker.
2,441 posted on 08/11/2003 5:58:42 AM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: jennyp
I vote that nobody does this again.

I have to respectively disagree. I think that private information should remain private, and private jokes between friends should remain private, but private insults and taunts are fair game in my book.

No one should feel protected by privacy if they email the equivalent of a rasberry.

Same goes for any communication with another. A profession of love is private, a gross insult is not.

2,442 posted on 08/11/2003 6:58:09 AM PDT by js1138
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To: gore3000
Scientists go through great trouble, sometimes working decades to prove one little point. I think it is a disservice to such seekers of truth to say that nothing is ever proven.

You chided me for playing with symantics, but now you are playing with symantics.

There was a fairly lengthy period between the general acceptance of the heliocentric solar system and Newton's equations for gravity. During these centuries, the only advantage of heliocentrism was that it simplified calculations -- and that only after Kepler.

There are always periods in science when paradigms are accepted without the seal of formal proof.

2,443 posted on 08/11/2003 7:13:46 AM PDT by js1138
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To: AndrewC
My calculator blows up at about 69!

I don't do much math at the moment, but I always thought it was unfortunate that calculators didn't have a birthday problem button. I suppose it's easy enough to program though.

2,444 posted on 08/11/2003 7:27:33 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks for your concern. I still get around. And you don't need to be quick or fast to type at a keyboard anyway. ;)
2,445 posted on 08/11/2003 7:45:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: js1138
I don't do much math at the moment, but I always thought it was unfortunate that calculators didn't have a birthday problem button.

Ahh, then you haven't seen the HP-99XLNT.


2,446 posted on 08/11/2003 7:53:32 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC; Doctor Stochastic; Nakatu X; RadioAstronomer
Thank y'all so much for the birthday solution!

I previously thought it was a stunning coincidence that my two brothers' birthdays were the same as my best friend and her husband's.

2,447 posted on 08/11/2003 8:30:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Nakatu X
Indeed, he's a darling. Come on, do you really think men would post pictures of their kittens on their FR pages? ;-)

You mean you never looked at my profile?

2,448 posted on 08/11/2003 8:41:45 AM PDT by balrog666 (Religions change; beer and wine remain.)
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To: balrog666
Dang, your cat has big ears. Do you think she gets Radio Free China on those antennae? ;-)
2,449 posted on 08/11/2003 8:47:38 AM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: balrog666
You may have the only kitten ever named for a SnigletTM. Maybe you should name your next cat "Sniglet."
2,450 posted on 08/11/2003 8:55:22 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Flipping the page placemarker.
2,451 posted on 08/11/2003 9:10:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro
Maybe Schroedinger should have named his cat Singlet.
2,452 posted on 08/11/2003 9:41:26 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VadeRetro
Maybe Schroedinger should have named his cat Singlet.
2,453 posted on 08/11/2003 9:41:40 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Maybe Schroedinger should have named his cat Triplet.
2,454 posted on 08/11/2003 9:42:27 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VadeRetro
I think "Spork" predates Sniglets. I was introduced to the Spork (a combination spoon and fork -- my father called them "abominations") in first grade back in '71, and IIRC, sniglets didn't come into being until "Real People" in the late 70s.
2,455 posted on 08/11/2003 11:34:48 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: Junior
IIRC, sniglets didn't come into being until "Real People" in the late 70s.

I thought they were new with Not Necessarily the News in the mid-80s, a cable show on which they were Rich Hall's personal feature, claim to fame, and substitute for talent.

2,456 posted on 08/11/2003 12:06:50 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
That's it! I knew it was some show I was watching during that time period.
2,457 posted on 08/11/2003 12:28:35 PM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: gore3000
Science is able to give some pretty strong proofs...

Perhaps an example would be helpful.

2,458 posted on 08/11/2003 12:52:59 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: Condorman
Placemarker.
2,459 posted on 08/11/2003 1:13:50 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: RadioAstronomer; Nakatu X; Doctor Stochastic
Here it is in non-pdf form (and with a more colorful graph)!

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rjh9u/birthday.html

2,460 posted on 08/11/2003 2:26:55 PM PDT by Condorman
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