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To: nmh; Cacique; harpseal
No, thats not it.

Todays engineering populace is more educated than any before, only there are no new jobs oening up because the factories are moving overseas!

The same goes with IT, the brains are going overseas.

We all went to school, played the game, paid our dues, and then the people who had to power to make the decisions yanked the rug from under us!

We are NOT competing against capitalist countries on the whole, we are competing against socialist/Fascist countries that use government funding to support, create, and provide for the companies that they take from us. These are NOT private individuals starting up machine shops in China, it is the Chinese government!

These are not companies spending their own money to develop and design and trouble shoot the machines to make the product, these are countries that have purchased the materials and machines to make all products from scratch, run them by slavves, LITERALLY, and then have the government supply all monies to keep them from going under.

Good God!! That is NOT free market, that is NOT capitalism, that is NOT free Trade, it is SOCIALISM!! It is a form of Fascism!! And we are not doing anything to stop it or defend our own countries ability to produce or provide for our own selves!!

They are literally using slave labor to run the high tech machines and we cannot compete against that using our Free Market Capitalist ideals!

The cat is out of the bag. People are all human and all capable of thinking. Now that we gave away the technology to make these products, and educated their new leaders, and then gave them the machines to do it and through all this provided the profits to buy more machines and materials, we have signed the manufacturing death warrant for our nation!!

Why in God's name is this so hard to see for some people??

126 posted on 07/18/2003 7:40:50 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Why in God's name is this so hard to see for some people??

Race, it's not hard to see. Of course it is no fun to see our previously high-wage jobs made obsolete. But the fact of the matter is that they ARE obsolete. Either we figure out how to compete with the rest of the world or we will die. I for one think that we can.

134 posted on 07/18/2003 7:47:03 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: RaceBannon
Mr. Bannon, you see they do not care if some Americans are out of work just as long as it is NOT they who have no job.

Simply law of the jungle there, old boy.

Too bad there are many conservatives who are junglesque "savage beasts" on this F.R. site.

Ah, too bad. How depressing?

Good luck old man in your search for gainful employment.

Wish I could offer you something.

141 posted on 07/18/2003 7:57:05 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: RaceBannon
Good God!! That is NOT free market, that is NOT capitalism, that is NOT free Trade, it is SOCIALISM!!

Man I love your post. I sometimes feel the same way. You are thinking about this situation 10-20 years from now, and it does give one pause, an important pause.

173 posted on 07/18/2003 8:45:42 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: RaceBannon
Why in God's name is this so hard to see for some people??

Well, I think because if some people are doing well themselves, they think the whole world is doing well. That's the only way I can explain it. It will be like that until the spinning wheel stops on their number and then it will be up. I'm with ya, man, I know where you're coming from. The only other thing I can add (if I may get religious for a sec) is what Jesus said on the Cross, "forgive them, Father, they do not understand." Keep up the fight, man, we have nothing to lose.
253 posted on 07/19/2003 11:21:37 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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