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My point was that they should be taught to question theories in general.

But since they can only truly question a theory from a position of knowledge, the point is moot.

This one, in particular.

Simply because it might gore a sacred cow or two does not mean it should be singled out for special treatment. If that were the case, I think quantum theory should be banished from school curriculums as it gives me pounding headaches.

I think quantum theory should be banished from school curriculums as it gives me pounding headaches.

Who are you, Elroy Jetson? Grade School Quantum Theory???

But since they can only truly question a theory from a position of knowledge, the point is moot.

Moot???

That is a bizarre statement. Education: Tell someone something exists. Teach them about it. Teach them to go beyond what they are taught!

Your point is that a student shouldn't be told that a theory is not a fact, because he is not yet able to "truly question it from a position of knowledge."

Remedial Science 101: This is a fact. This is a theory. They are not the same!

In this thread, you said:

Creationism is a religious/political movement which threatens to marginalize the conservative movement
9 posted on 07/09/2003 2:25 PM CDT by Junior

Then you said:

Simply because it might gore a sacred cow or two does not mean it should be singled out for special treatment. If that were the case, I think quantum theory should be banished from school curriculums as it gives me pounding headaches.
99 posted on 07/09/2003 3:58 PM CDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")

Conservatism has always been about religion and politics. Only you guys put your "science" agenda above those two.
This website is supposed to be about furthering conservatism. The founder even recently (twice that I know) made it clear the goal here was to defeat liberals and further conservatives. None of your behavior even comes close to either of those two goals. In fact, pushing evolution, especially in the manner that you do it, furthers liberals, who mostly hold to the identically same belief systems as most evolutionists do. As Ann Coulter recently pointed out, "Conservatives, by and large believe in God, and liberals believe they are gods". Your entire premise, agenda, goal and behavior is in direct odds with what most conservatives are, and have been, just as much as the recent SCOTUS decisions are at odds with the 14th Amendment.
Am I claiming all evolutionists are liberals? Hardly. But most are, and most conservatives are christians. The belief that evolution is universally accepted is a self-serving self-deceiving empty banner. And certainly most conservatives harbor no happiness in having their faith or God being treated and guffawed at in the manner you evolutionists on FR are more often than not, doing. Denial is absurd. Redefining your statements that are taken ill by those they are directed at is nonsense. On the whole, but not in every case, the offended defines what is offensive. When you are confronted by the offended, you just take license to claim the offended is playing the victim or too stipud to comprehend your most annointed definition.

In the first post you say what many darwinites have said when cornered. Your biggest fear is that YOU will be marginalized. You somehow have obtained the "swamp gas" notion that truth, regardless of source, is something to fear. "Truth" must be dispensed through a narrow slit posessed only by those that exhibit few signs of real conservatism, want nothing or very little to do with religion, and spend more time fretting over self-conjured strawmen than politics. It is precisely as if you all had an agenda. And that agenda has absolutely nothing to do with conservative politics, as pointed out by a poster above.

In your 2nd post, you wish to take up the absurdity of the very basis of point put forth by you in the first post.

So which is it?
Is it wrong to single religion/creationism/ID for "special treatment" or not?

Doubtful the question put forth will be answered as it was given, so you all may continue the character assassination of christians. I just wanted to point out a few patterns of consistent inconsistencies by those who can hardly spare a post without insults to God and His believers, while patting each other on the back about how great you all are, and how pathetically dumb everyone else is.