[Stultis]

and once evolution or whatever Godless ideal you want your citizens to emulate is in effect

I don't want to "effect" any ideal, except by suasion and socialization in the context of the free society. I embrace the dynamism of a society of competing ideas, including those of fundamentalists, nor do I object to fundamentalists, or any other group, socializing their children, and attepting to persaude other members of society, as they see fit.

[f.Christian]

To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar

[JesseShurun]

Furthermore, the day will come, when you (and by that, not you personally) will murder us and think that you are doing the world a favor. Even now, the two witnesses from the Bible are being murdered daily in the streets and people rejoice, because they think they have new freedom.But these same two witnesses are going to stand up again and all the world, including you this time, will marvel at them. Let them who has ears to hear, hear what the Spirit is telling them