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Perhaps we do. Taking the next logical step, even if it were horizontal transfer of flagellar genes from some other source, as you argued for, that would still seem to obviate the need for a designer of the flagellum - horizontal transfer being a naturalistic, materialistic means for genetic transfers, after all. Which returns me to my original point - I presume you mean "designer" in a larger, more general sense, rather than implying one in the specific case of the flagellum...

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...horizontal transfer being a naturalistic, materialistic means for genetic transfers change...

[AndrewC]

that would still seem to obviate the need for a designer of the flagellum - horizontal transfer being a naturalistic, materialistic means for genetic transfers, after all. Which returns me to my original point - I presume you mean "designer" in a larger, more general sense, rather than implying one in the specific case of the flagellum...

No on the obviate, yes on the larger sense. The library has books. The library did not write the books.

On the larger sense, it does not preclude the more limited sense.

Mat 6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
Mat 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall he] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith?