Meanwhile I really wish you'd answer my question, which I posed to you in all seriousness, with no macho debate points sought. It's just you, me, and a few other bleary-eyed regulars here anyway, sequestered in the Smokey Backroom. I think you creationists have a fundamental internal contradiction you're not dealing with when it comes to the flagellum vs. The Fall. Do you agree there's a contradiction there, or not? If not, how do you resolve it?