js1138 replies: God of dysentery?
...and then you:
You can spin in any MIScontext you want, but the fact you toads feel compelled to give it so much attention, only goes to PROVE you ALL know it was wrong.
Any side issues you wish to inject are merely side issues, they cannot wipe clean the sins of the transgressor js1138.
Let the Lurker and Honest Observer observe the sickness and parallels of the evos with that of sick minded liberals.
[yada, yada, yada] ...materialistic, atheistic, bible bashing, God hating evolutionists.
VadeRetro and js1138, although I can't speak for them, seem to have just been making a point about the tendency of creationism and/or ID to reveal a "God of the gaps." It is hardly outside the bounds of discourse in the Smokey Backroom to make the piquant observation that relegating God to fiddling with flagella makes him the "God of dysentery".
Rather than addressing the argument about whether creationism teaches a "God of the gaps," and possibly attempting to refute that accusation, you'd rather whine and wail. Fine, it's fairly characteristic of your contributions here anyway. But there is something more you failed to notice before launching into your rant:
Leaving aside the "God of the gaps" problem, it's not just evolutionists who believe that God is indeed the God of dysentery. AndrewC, for example -- at least as I read the implications of what he has just been saying -- would also accept that God is the God of dysentery. In fact I believe the bible teaches that He is the God of dysentery, for He is the God of all things.
All that is was created by him. Hell was created by God, and the bible tells us that He even "creates evil". So what is the big problem with him creating the bugs that cause dysentery?
Although I am a "philosophical" theist, and not a Christian, and not a biblical theist, I agree with some of the things the bible teaches, and I agree with this.
In that sense, maybe I'm more of a creationist than you are. In my view you can't be a thorough-going creationist and theist if you only reserve little nicey-nice puppy dog and cuddley kitty type things for God to create. God is the God of majestic mountains majesty, amber fields of grain, AND of dysentery.
That almost wraps it up. A good summary of what was said and by whom. But it leaves out the motive for starting the discussion, which is the irony of the flagellum being the single best icon of ID, and at the same time characteristic mostly of disease causing organisms. It is one thing for creation to have sufficient freedom to enable the possibility of evil. It is quite another thing to have evil things in such abundance, existing independently of the guilt or innocence of the victims.