[VadeRetro]

Astonishing clinical progress in one who has seemed hopeless. Apparently, public concessions are impossible but private concessions are concievable.

Now he needs to realize that whether the discussion is public or private, if you're going to continue to argue a position, you've got to stay as square with all the pertinent facts as you possibly can. That means eating the crow while it's warm.

[VadeRetro]

Meant to add you on 4123.

[js1138]

Although the disputants here will never agree with each other, I have notice some progress recently. There has been a significant decline in the rate of posting bogus, manufactured, out-of-context quotes (I should keep a spreadsheet on this one). We will eventually see a drop in the frequency of posts claiming that Darwin was not a scientist. I'm holding my breath on the vitamin c thing.