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To: bondserv
Honestly, I see the argument that Jesus is the Creator is more of a political statement than a statement of faith.

Maybe because it's being advanced by fundamentalists, whom I perceive as being motivated by politics, not by faith.

Fundamentalists reject authority other than their own. They reject scientific authority that conflicts with fundamentalism, they reject governmental authority that conflicts with fundamentalism, and they reject religious authority that conflicts with fundamentalism.

Elevating Jesus to the spot usually reserved for God the Father is part of that, it seems to me.

Anyway, gotta go to court, so will think more on this later.
4,116 posted on 07/18/2003 4:22:01 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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4,117 posted on 07/18/2003 4:32:58 AM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: CobaltBlue
Honestly, I see the argument that Jesus is the Creator is more of a political statement than a statement of faith. Maybe because it's being advanced by fundamentalists, whom I perceive as being motivated by politics, not by faith.

I think we are motivated by SCRIPTURE: It comes right from Scripture.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Col. 1:15-16 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

4,119 posted on 07/18/2003 6:43:04 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: CobaltBlue
Fundamentalists reject authority other than their own. They reject scientific authority that conflicts with fundamentalism, they reject governmental authority that conflicts with fundamentalism, and they reject religious authority that conflicts with fundamentalism.

Fundamentalist have scripture as their authority, and when theories conflict with scripture, they are false theories; when govt. authority conflicts with God-given rights or lifestyle, govt. is to be defied (as Bonhofer defied the Nazis); when a church rejects scripture as the ultimate authority, we expose that church for its heresy. Any questions?

4,121 posted on 07/18/2003 6:48:51 AM PDT by exmarine
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