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You want to argue about what science is, then go get a science degree, I guarantee you will be a bit upset that your definition is WAY off.

There is more to this debate that "science" - philosophy permeates this topic thru and thru. I have yet to get a definition of science from the so-called "scientists" here. They pretend that they have no philosophical presuppositions behind their assumptions, as if they are objective observers. It's laughable. It makes my wonder why there is such a thing as "philosophy of science" when evos do not ackowledge it exists. Perhaps they can use the governmental power to kill all academic cirriculum that includes such a course.

Again, never argue science with a scientist, it makes you look foolish and the scientist thinks your a buffoon!!

Haha. Thanks, but I don't need your lame advice. I am not really affected by what an atheistic anti-Christian neodarwinian thinks of me. I can live just fine with whatever contempt or enmity that atheistic evos feel for me, and I will just keep on keepin on. There's really not much you can do about it chief.

I have yet to get a definition of science from the so-called "scientists" here.

This is an untruth. We have repeated several times 'science is what scientists do, professionally'. We have also given you demarcation criteria by which you can distinguish science from non-science.

It makes my wonder why there is such a thing as "philosophy of science" when evos do not ackowledge it exists.

This is another untruth. Not only have we acknowledged it exists, we have drawn your attention to one very famous philosopher of science, who has directly addressed the questions you asked.

First off there "Chief" I am NOT an atheist, I am NOT anti-christian, and I sure as hell ain't a neodarwinist.

You are just so full of assumptions aren't you?

Science cannot use god as a causation, because god is out of the bounds of natures laws, as you yourself admit. Science is limited in the fact that it can only study that which can be observed or seen or there is physical evidence.

God is NONE of these things, therefore god or the existence or nonexistence of such a being is OUTSIDE the bounds of science.

You may not like it, it may not fit into your socalled worldview, but that is the way it is, and your incessant whining and namecalling is NOT going to change it.