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To: CobaltBlue
It's not "comfort" that bothers me, it's "point."

Well, you haven't discussed the other verses I and others have listed so I figured you weren't comfortable doing so and many pointed to Jesus' involvement in creation. Something I say a number of times a year: Context is everything.

Besides that, your sources continue to support what we're saying, not what you're saying. We've provided a number of verses and you keep quoting John 1.

I don't speak ancient Greek. Everybody who does appears to translate the words to suit their preconceptions.

I'd have to vehemently disagree. The 16 Bible versions I checked support what I and others who disagree with you have said.

You can tell me until you're blue in the face that this means that Christ is the Creator, and I'll never agree.

I'll have to agree with Alamo_Girl, there's not much point in discussing this. As AG said: "eyes read the Bible but the Spirit within [us] reads the Word". As I see it your theology isn't Orthodox and what you say is considered heresy. I recommend Berkhof's Systematic Theology. It's a seminary textbook that, IMO, will help.

3,884 posted on 07/17/2003 12:06:18 PM PDT by scripter (There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus.)
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To: scripter
You mentioned four or five or maybe six sources, I went into detail about three of them - Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3-4 and John 1:10. After realizing how far apart we are and will remain, I am content to leave it at that.

3,993 posted on 07/17/2003 3:23:10 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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