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To: js1138
Thank you so much for your post!

I think you will find that if strong AI is ever achieved it will be at the expense of strong determinism. The more nearly we mimic brain function, the more difficult it will be to insure sanity. And that's even before we attempt anything approaching human brains. Just my two cents.

Truly, I believe that science will come around as you say. Additional specific reasons are addressed in this thread by betty boop.

However - in the meantime - both neuro-science and artificial intelligence are going full tilt on a materialistic path which expects to find physical evolutionary causation for everything, e.g. consciousness, qualia, society, free will.

3,882 posted on 07/17/2003 11:48:45 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
However - in the meantime - both neuro-science and artificial intelligence are going full tilt on a materialistic path which expects to find physical evolutionary causation for everything, e.g. consciousness, qualia, society, free will.

I think it's possible to build things whose behavior is indeterminate. For a smple example, consider program designed to forcast weather. You can describe all the cogs and wheels of the program, all the functions, objects, operators, but you cannot predict its output because you cannot predict its input.

Moving along to a more complex program, the mythical AI program, It would also have as its primary "object", creating an optimal response to a predicted future. To achieve even the level of a cat brain would require processing power we only dream about. And once again, to make predictions about the behavior of the catbot, you would have to have continuous access to its entire internal state, plus all its inputs. In short, the predictive device would have to parallel the device being predicted. This is equivalent to attempting to predict some arbitrary future state of your automata without running the program. Even worse, the grid on which the automata operates is not flat and unchanging. It is being changed continuously by other automata that are hidden from our spacetime perspective.

3,887 posted on 07/17/2003 12:09:01 PM PDT by js1138
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