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To: Stultis
[language made more definite -- "are necessary" replacing "if not indispensable ... at least highly beneficial" -- and details of such experiments were added here in 6th Edition]

Please show me "such experiment" in the first edition because I fail to see it. I see an assertion WITHOUT a supporting experiment.

Methinks that YOU are the "shameless little liar" here. (since were back to name calling) *sigh*

3,825 posted on 07/17/2003 5:33:52 AM PDT by conservababeJen (http://abortiondebate.org/forums)
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To: Stultis
Hang in there... it's almost 9AM ET, which means the usual gang of shameless creationoids will be leaving.

How anyone can boldly profess that Charles Darwin was not a scientist of any merit is beyond my comprehension.
3,826 posted on 07/17/2003 5:39:41 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: conservababeJen
Methinks that YOU are the "shameless little liar" here. (since were back to name calling) *sigh*

Since you lied. And now since you fail to own up to lying, or even to inadvertent error. Pathetic. (And don't play that "sighing over name calling" game, in your very next post after slinging "liar" at authors of substantive critiques of Wells.)

But let us overcome our revulsion (or pity) at your behavior and review:

You asked for ONE example of an experiment in The Origin of Species. I provided several.

I used the 6th (final) edition of The Origin, rather than the 1st, as my source for no particular reason, although it is the one normally reprinted in modern editions.

You replied (emphasis added):

Interesting that you had to go to the 6th edition to find something that was an experiment. They do not appear in the first which I checked (and am sure you did too).

I did not find "something," as in singular, I found several things, as you acknowledge with the plural "they". You said "they" didn't appear in the 1st edition, which is not true. Furthermore you said you checked this, so you knew it wasn't true, and therefore you lied (or lied about checking).

And now, simply because you are too much of an [*expletive deleted*] to say, "oops, I made a mistake," you make an issue of the trivial difference, that I pointed out to you, of Darwin adding a smattering of data in the 6th edition for one set of experiments (red clover fertilization) alluded to without the data in the 1st edition.

PLEASE! We all know damned good and well you didn't find this single substantive difference prior to my flagging it, even if you "checked". We all know that this was never the basis for your, "they do not appear". We all know that was a lie, with no basis.

Quibbling over this single difference, where Darwin tossed in a bit of data in a later edition, does not address "they," the multiple examples I provided (among many others I could have chosen). But quibble you must, and stack one lie on top of another you must, all because it is unthinkable that gore3000, Great Champion of GOD, Evo Slayer, might have made a human error, jumped to a conclusion, or just been wrong about anything.

The result: You are a clown, a buffoon, and everybody here (and I don't mean just the "evos") knows it.

You're a smart person, gore. You don't need to be a pathetic laughing stock. You can keep all your beliefs and defend them much more honorably and ably. You can turn this all around just by learning three little words: "I was wrong."

3,836 posted on 07/17/2003 6:34:10 AM PDT by Stultis
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