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To: HalfFull
Compared to where we are,the stars are hardly moving, but they do move, as a matter of fact, they are moving away from each other at thousands of miles per hour.

The big dipper, let's see, http://www.space.com/spacewatch/big_dipper_020621.html

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Of the seven stars that make up this pattern, five apparently belong to a loosely joined swarm of stars, all hurtling through space at roughly the same speed and the same direction. These five stars range in distances from 78 to 84 light years from the Earth.

Two of the stars, however - Dubhe (the northern Pointer) and Alkaid (the star at the end of the handle) - are not part of the swarm and appear to be rushing at even greater speeds in the opposite direction. Alkaid is 101 light years away, while Dubhe is 124 light years distant.

These opposing motions will slowly alter the form of the Big Dipper. In short, the Dipper is slowly going to pieces.

The bent handle will bend still more as time wears on, while the bowl will spread. Granted, it will still remain a fairly convincing dipper for about the next 25,000 years, but 50,000 years from now it will be hopelessly out of shape.

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These stars will slowly separate to a point that the big dipper will NOT be recognizable as the big dipper anymore, not in our lifetimes of course, but all the constellations will change over time, because the stars are ALL moving in relationship to each other.

They will NOT remain in the same place, sorry, no order at all.

The socalled order came from our human ancestors imaginations.
3,718 posted on 07/16/2003 8:31:54 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000; RadioAstronomer; js1138
The socalled order came from our human ancestors imaginations.

I know you folks in the Church of Evolution love the Big Bang/Expanding Universe theory, but there are other possible explanations for what appears to be movement of the stars. Perhaps in past years there have been FR threads on this subject....wouldn't be surprised. Smarter folks then me, like Setterfield and others, have written extensively on some of this stuff..

Anyway, another explanation of what we think we see is the C-R theory. Here are a couple (link1 and link2) of links for your reading pleasure.

I just love God's orderly Universe...yes i do....

(Won't be able to respond to any posts until this weekend...duty calls) .

3,828 posted on 07/17/2003 5:43:13 AM PDT by HalfFull
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