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What sort of overweening arrogance could possibly lead someone to pretend to speak for "all others here"? And what sort of chutzpah could lead someone who just yesterday posted a claim about homeschooling that he declined to defend, to demand such a defense from others?

I have nothing to prove to you - I know my statements about homeschooling are true and I don't care if you don't believe them - it's common knowledge.

Since you have no definition of science, then you have no basis for saying my idea of science is wrong. Scientific Truth isn't established by consensus - ask the phlogiston people about that. If you can't provide a definition, then your statements about my idea of science become incoherent and indefensible.

I have nothing to prove to you - I know my statements about homeschooling are true and I don't care if you don't believe them - it's common knowledge.

Since you have no definition of science, then you have no basis for saying my idea of science is wrong. Scientific Truth isn't established by consensus - ask the phlogiston people about that. If you can't provide a definition, then your statements about my idea of science become incoherent and indefensible.

Your insistence on a definition conflicts with the considered writings of the man considered to be the seminal philosopher of science. Moreover, as a scientist myself, I don't even have to rely on Popper's vastly greater authority in this matter; what he wrote agrees with my own experience. Scientists in general make the distinction between what is and what is not science without a generally accepted definition. You don't need to 'define' an apple to distiguish with 100% reliability betwen an apple and an orange.

'I know what I know' buys you nothing on this forum, bud.

I only saw parts on this homeschooling thread. We homeschool in California and surprisingly, California is better than many other states regarding homeschoolers. To homeschool in California we only had to file an avidavit for our private school, named Viva Veritas Vitae (Way Truth Life).

Yet California is not without it's homeschooling problems. We have folks like ex-Superintendant Delaine Easton who tried very hard to push her personal bias as law in California. She failed. We were interviewed (and made the front page!) regarding Easton's comments, and in their bias the areas largest newspaper couldn't get the story straight. Whatever it takes to sell newspapers, I 'spose.

So yes, homeschoolers face many obstacles even when the law is on their side. And yes we're members of hslda. Hey, for $100 a year that's very little money for complete representation and peace of mind. If/When California changes it's homeschool laws for the worse we'll move to Idaho or Texas. We'll continue to homeschool and teach our kids real science.