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To: exmarine; whattajoke
Not 100%, but we are a force. By the way, Jesus Christ is no myth - no serious or respected scholar (believer or unbeliever) doubts he was a real figure. Only atheists with slanted historiography and bad scholarship believe he was a myth.

I am curious where you get this idea. Outside of the Bible (or a book written using the Bible or about the Bible), would you please show documented records that Jesus truly existed?

3,372 posted on 07/16/2003 9:00:11 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Outside of the Bible

There is a mention by Josephus, although John the Baptist got much bigger press.

3,378 posted on 07/16/2003 9:15:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I am curious where you get this idea. Outside of the Bible (or a book written using the Bible or about the Bible), would you please show documented records that Jesus truly existed?

Pliny the Younger, Tacitus, Suetonius, Babylonian Talmud, Josephus (all extra-biblical sources) - all mention Jesus Christ, not to mention the New Testament itself. Not bad for a poor artisan carpenter from a remote Roman province.

3,383 posted on 07/16/2003 9:25:00 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: RadioAstronomer; exmarine; whattajoke; RightWhale
I am curious where you get this idea. Outside of the Bible (or a book written using the Bible or about the Bible), would you please show documented records that Jesus truly existed?

Tacitus mentions Jesus as well. I don't remember which book, but I have it at home. I don't know the latin reference but in the english translation He was called, "Crestus", or something very close. Tacitus writes there were riots in Rome at the time of His Crucifixion.

I'm surprised this thread is still here.

3,407 posted on 07/16/2003 10:23:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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