Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[f.Christian]

Evolution and conservatism are opposite directions people are to stupid brainwashed to know this placemaker !

[AndrewC]

Ah, but did the captain admit his error, or is he even today brazening it out?

I don't know, but the point was that innocents suffered and died for his mistake.

[f.Christian]

ubiquitous theory - science with no evidence placemaker !

[AndrewC]

IMO that's their only real blunder.

Which is why I wish ALS would answer my question of the flagella and the Fall. I suspect he never considered the contradiction before, and is flummoxed by it.

What contradiction? As has been before stated and with which you obviously agree, God created evil. That is not a contradiction. The fallacious argument was your non sequitur which disallowed its design(purpose).

[general_re]

What do we do? Do we accept it and say s**t happens? Or do we acknowledge the error for what it was and correct the cause of the error?

With respect to Y. pestis - calling the handiwork of the Designer an "error" and attempting to "correct" Him seems awfully...presumptuous ;)

[Stultis]

What contradiction?

It's not a contradiction for you. As you have expressed, you interprete The Fall metaphorically (at least in terms of its effect on the natural world). I can assure, however, and document the fact if necessary, that many (though not all) creation science types do NOT share your view. They hold that there were literal and profound effects on nature associated with the fall.

[f.Christian]

evolutionists finest ... ripe --- full blown evolving spin - flip - switch liberalism traitor placemaker!

[f.Christian]

bbddd - bbdddd - bbdddd - bbdddd - pow - pow - pow placemaker !

[f.Christian]

ken norris evander holyfield george foreman placemaker !

[balrog666]

george foreman grill placemaker !

[PatrickHenry]

Dying thread P L A C E M A R K E R

[ALS]

"You are getting back some of what has been dished out by Darwininians DarWHINEians for well over a year."

Excellent TRUTH and well worth every whining teardrop filled tantrum from the still evolving crowd.

tick tock!

[NewLand]

where's the evo-proof placemarker...

[ALS]

dog ate it
no wait..
elephant stepped on it
no wait...
Venusian voles hyper-evoluted it into makeshift dilithium crystals while digging a wormhole to Uranus in darwood's backyard.
yeah, that's the ticket

[jennyp]

Good evening, ALS. I'd still appreciate an answer to my question posed in 4296, explained further in 4299, and also asked of you by Stultis in 4306.

Here's how I phrased it in 4299:

Now, I'm wondering if you believe that bacterial diseases such as diarrhea came about as part of The Fall? As I understand it, in The Fall God removed His protection against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, thereby allowing death & deterioration & destruction to occur. IOW, The Fall did not consist of God making positive acts of design to create the world's deadly & destructive things; they came about as the natural consequence of the material world.

So if the deadly flagella came about as part of The Fall, then it was part of corrupt nature taking its course, and not because of any affirmative, positive step that God made. But of course that means that it must have evolved and was not designed.

But you say that the flagella, which is the very instrument of death for H. pylori, E. coli, & others, was created by a positive, affirmative act of creation by God.

So help me out, ALS. Help me understand how you resolve this contradiction in your belief system? And if there is no contradiction, then please tell me precisely where my description of your beliefs re: the flagella is incorrect?

[ALS]

We'd all like something and I'd like an admission of the obvious, that the below is an insult, and was intended as an insult, and an apology by all evos complicit in the joys of the insult. The context of which received validation by pattycakes, here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/943130/posts?page=4201#4201


God of dysentery?

3,890 posted on 07/17/2003 2:16 PM CDT by js1138


facts are not your friend

[jennyp]

Brave, brave Sir Robin placemarker

[CobaltBlue]

>>Do we accept it and say s**t happens?<<

When discussing dysentery, let's don't even go there.

[ALS]

enough of the swooning already.

you'll upset the chihuahuas

[AndrewC]

With respect to Y. pestis - calling the handiwork of the Designer an "error" and attempting to "correct" Him seems awfully...presumptuous ;)

You're in Paris, we are in Rome. The "error" was Adam's sin. ;^)