Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[bondserv]

So you would ask the children to ignore how the sunset is beautifully painted across the sky.

Or the soothing auditory sounds that waves crashing on the beach produce.

Or the shade of green that the grass takes on after the pure water from the clouds stimulates a unique chemical reaction with life.

Or the rusty color of the bark on a redwood tree as it majestically reaches to the sky.

Or the sweet smell of fresh cut grass as you tee off for a round of golf.

Or the taste of a nicely BBQ'ed fresh cut of filet mignon as the flavor explodes over the taste buds of the mouth.

Or the excitement of a dog greeting his master after a trip away from home.

How can you teach a child to appreciate the wonders of life if you attribute these things to sterile, cold, space and time?

The Designer took great care in laying out a wonderful world for us. If not for the curse (Chaos, brought on by the 2nd Law) and the enemy having chosen to continually try to ensnare us with destruction of one another, we would be completely satisfied with His creation.

[qam1]

Bat bones tend to be light and slender (which accounts in part for the sparse fossil record of bats). As in birds, bats have some reduced bones, the radius and fibula are shortened and thin. Bats, like birds, also have fused cranial bones for additional lightness. The arrangement of the muscles is also designed for lightness and for flight.

From: Amazing Creatures, an article which evolutionists could not refute and therefore abused to force its being pulled from FR.

Talk about being delusional, You points about bats were easily refuted and shot down before the thread was pulled.

Bat fossils clearly show an evolutionary trend from less sophisticated to the more sophisticated we see today.

Your site claims the fibula is shorted and thinned but what your site conveniently leaves out is that in early bats the fibula wasn't thin at all (2nd from bottom in list), that feature along with others evolved over time.

I won't hold my breath waiting for a correction to appear on the site.

[bondserv]

Beautiful!!

[bondserv]

Thanks for your input and response.

We have some Spirit filled afterglow gatherings that will bless your socks off. The peace that surpasses understanding can be a serious recharge of the spiritual batteries.

[PatrickHenry]

Automated Troll-Guard ^tm notification:
All trolls ignored.
Security settings on high.
Idiot tolerance level on low.
Troll traction index: 11%

[ALS]

Automated Evo-Guard ^tm notification:
All Evos auto-ignorant.
Evo inSecurity settings on high.
Evo IQ level stuck on low.

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religion but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We shall not fight alone. God presides over the destinies of nations." - Patrick Henry

[ALS]

Job 38:2
Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
38:3
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
38:4
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
38:5
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest ? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
38:6
Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened ? or who laid the corner stone thereof

[gore3000]

A) Your posts haven't laid a glove on the scientific basis for evolution.

No? That's why you folks cannot refute them with your tens of thousands of references, hundreds of links and hundreds of professional propagandists whose job is to talk away the facts.

Let's look at the list of scientific facts presented to the evolutionists which they cannot refute:
1, post# 1868 - showing that genetics disproves evolution.
2. post# 66 in the 'Monkey Trial' thread - showing that evolution is not even a theory. (original thread destroyed due to evos not wanting it seen).
3. Amazing Creatures (original thread destroyed due to evos not wanting it seen).
4. Evidence Disproving Evolution still here at FR for all to see that the evolutionists could not refute it.

All the above go to the heart of the veracity of the theory of evolution. All of them are scientifically correct, none of them has been refuted. All you and your friends know how to do is repeat 'evolution is science' but cannot give a single refutation to any of the above. If evolution was science there would be no question that would need an insult as a reply.

[gore3000]

If you want to believe that everybody can pick up a Bible and figure things out and every understanding and perception is as good as any other, more power to you.

I don't know who you are talking to, certainly not to me - that's why you could not even quote a word I said.

[Aric2000]

ya gotta love it placemarker

[ALS]

[gore3000]

Bat fossils clearly show an evolutionary trend from less sophisticated to the more sophisticated we see today.

Bats are mammals, therefore they share many characteristics of mammals. They however share many characteristics with birds which clearly could not have been inherited. Evolution is about inheritance and these birdlike features were not inherited. Therefore to speak of convergent evolution as evolutionists speak of is totally ludicrous. Your table may look impressive, but so do the evolutionary trees, cladistics, mtDNA studies and much else put out by the rhetorical factories of evolution none of which are evidence but an attempt to manufacture evidence where none exists.

Since the table is not sourced and does not show where the facts came from it is not evidence of anything. In addition, there are over a thousand species of bats nowadays, it would be easy to compare the known fossils against a totally unrelated species such as the fruit eating bats and claim that the features are different. That's not proof of anything. The 50 million year old bats already had the bat sonar and the birdlike features for flight.

[VadeRetro]

How can you teach a child to appreciate the wonders of life if you attribute these things to sterile, cold, space and time?

You can't appreciate any of that unless you believe a fairy story about a magical being zapping it all into existence out of nothing in a week? Hello? Is anybody home in your head?

[ALS]

The question was a question, of which you failed to answer.

curious

[gore3000]

And this Texas textbook controversy is a pretty good example.

Correct! The evolutionists are very intolerant and try to silence all who disagree. Interestingly, even though evolutionists claim that they are not atheists and that their theory is not atheistic, they use the word "God" in their attempts to silence opponents as if it was a dirty word.

[VadeRetro]

Or the taste of a nicely BBQ'ed fresh cut of filet mignon as the flavor explodes over the taste buds of the mouth.

Another thing: good filet mignon is too good for BBQ sauce.

[ALS]

[VadeRetro]

That's why you folks cannot refute them with your tens of thousands of references, hundreds of links and hundreds of professional propagandists whose job is to talk away the facts.

You forgot all the museums in the world, with all their specimens, and all the labs with all the cages, cultures, and instruments. Nothing can touch your posts because you will still post them whether reality is in agreement with their content or not.

[ALS]

evos in a parallelogram universe P L A C E M A R K E R

[VadeRetro]

The Designer took great care in laying out a wonderful world for us. If not for the curse (Chaos, brought on by the 2nd Law) and the enemy having chosen to continually try to ensnare us with destruction of one another, we would be completely satisfied with His creation.

Damn that Osama!