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To: Aric2000
"evolution is a theory, not a fact ....

So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ....

So9

9 posted on 06/22/2003 5:50:34 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Not sure about the others but I'm pretty sure gravity is a fact.

Relativity is theory, chaos theory is well, theory. Quantum mechnics . . .is largely theory.

Evolution is very much theory.

21 posted on 06/22/2003 5:57:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"evolution is a theory, not a fact ....

So is Gravity

Except, I can examine gravity without leaving my desk...I can't travel anywhere in the world and examine 'evolution'.
64 posted on 06/22/2003 6:27:40 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"evolution is a theory, not a fact .... So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ....

So9

Excellent,, Servant of 9! The word "Theory" is like the word "tap." You can "tap" someone on the shoulder, which is very different than to "tap" someone's bank account. Same word, different meanings. According to my dictionary, the popular usage of the word "theory" is "a mere hypothesis, conjecture, guess."

Natural selection (i.e., "evolution,") is an observed scientific phenomenon, and I have read much about the subject. The word "theory" in the application of evolution, as it is in mathematics or music, refers to another meaning of the word "theory," to wit: "that branch of art or science consisting in a knowledge of its principles and methods ..."

I've taken music "theory" in college, and it is NOT hypothesis or conjecture, it is classic "theory," the definition of working principles, as is "evolution" as pertains to the phenomenon of natural selection.

Natural selection has been observed again and again in flora and fauna, where certain traits that were successful in one environment, became a liability in a changed environment, and the plants/animals that had those characteristics died or were eaten before they matured to have offspring; the ones without the liable characteristic survied and had offspring, whose liklihood of inheriting that characteristic was greater -- hence their "evolution" from having one trait to having another.

Personally, I think that evolution itself is Intelligent Design, and very very much in line with God and His miracles. The New Testament speaks in parables -- for Pete's Sake, SO DOES GENESIS!!! In a nutshell, natural selection's bottom line is: adapt or perish. In God's spiritual world, we as human beings either adapt our societies to His wise laws, or we perish.

95 posted on 06/22/2003 6:42:08 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and success. Amen.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"evolution is a theory, not a fact ....
So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ...."


Gravity is a proven, tested, and falsiable scientific law.

Evolution as an explanation of the origin of species is not. It is theory with some big holes.

-- Joe
251 posted on 06/22/2003 8:33:50 PM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: Servant of the Nine
So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ....

And so was Gallilean dynamics replaced by relativistic dynamics, and so will Darwin's theory need its challenger.

1. Why only one original being at the origin and not four or five?

2. Why is the environment never evolving dynamicaly but is static with Darwin's theory? Hence Darwin does not reflect relativistic aspects of evolution and social adaptation, let alone super adaptation through calculation.

3. While quantum mechanics show a change in speed of the particle as its position is observed, so does animal behavior change when it feel observed or not. This form of unknown and behavior of adaptation to the unknown is not even touched upon the primitive deterministic naive Darwinian approach.

4. And while a tree branch grows thanks to a DNA program, in chaotic manner with a strange attractor, so has evolution seemed to follow a strange attractor and a program. The "DNA" of ID has not been found, but it can be programmed in a computer to create intelligently evolving machines, just as regular full chaotic evolution can be programmed too but with lesser effectiveness.

595 posted on 06/23/2003 1:13:37 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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