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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: bondserv
Just this week I spoke to a Mark Looy from AIG for an hour about this. He was very arrogant. I was sad to hear one "Christian" putting down another. I sent Marks email to Dr. Hovind. I then spoke to Dr. Hovind on the phone. It really saddens me to hear one ministry put down another and I think AIG is becoming no better than "others" in their tactics. I think the old divide and kill tactic of satan is in full swing.
861 posted on 06/23/2003 9:05:40 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
The great thing about Dr. Hovind is that if he is wrong he will admit it. If he does not believe in the pangea theory, that is his perogative, neither do I. AIG should work together with other creation foundations if they don't want to loose respect.
862 posted on 06/23/2003 9:08:08 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I think that Dr. Hovind, you , myself or anyone eles need not be a scientist to understand many things.

I completely agree. However, an education allows a person to discern junk science. For example if I told you that the earth was flat, you would know I was wrong. Mr. Hovind falls in the 'junk science" realm.

863 posted on 06/23/2003 9:11:38 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: goodseedhomeschool
When has Kent Hovind ever admitted he was wrong about anything?
864 posted on 06/23/2003 9:12:33 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I do not agree.
865 posted on 06/23/2003 9:13:18 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: bondserv
What I immediately picked up from AIG is their desire to be the determiner if an arguement is valid or not, and whether the "new information" pertaining to that topic refutes the old arguement.

It's pretty obvious to me that the AiG folks are mighty embarrassed by Hovind's lack of intellectual rigor (to put it kindly).

A Christian principle, that is biblical, is to call to account those in the body, but within the church. That is why it is forbidden to sue another Christian. Not all Christians abide by this principle however.

Wow, you're not supposed to sue one another???

866 posted on 06/23/2003 9:15:06 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
The more rational posts I see, when none of us are attacking the other, the more I like it.

I think the way we understand some things might come from a pre-bias that we all have when we decide the conclusions.

I could not agree more.

In hypothetical theories, our bias is always the basis for our conclusions . IMHO

I agree with this statement as well.

I also believe that science tries to be as unbiased as possible, that is why ALL hypothesis go through a peer review process, so that any personal bias can be weeded out.

If we were talking about a personal opinion or belief, I would back you up 100%, but evolution is science, so we will agree to disagree...;)
867 posted on 06/23/2003 9:15:14 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: jennyp
When have you done the same?
868 posted on 06/23/2003 9:17:55 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
ZING!

LOL!

869 posted on 06/23/2003 9:19:53 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: Aric2000
See there, I knew we would find common ground. I like you better and better all the time. I have learned a lot by reading all these posts about this topic, and myself. I know I need to hear others even when we disagree. It is really hard sometimes because we all want to be "right", lol.
870 posted on 06/23/2003 9:20:49 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I agree.

I have watched the entire seminar by Dr. Hovind, and I was never once confused about times he was speculating or putting things together without hard evidence.

He is very careful to delineate between speculation and fact. And I believe he has a very solid grasp of the scriptures, and found none of his uses of the Bible to be outside of the park.

He is somewhat of a wise guy, but that is one of the things that enables a person to listen with interest to a 15-hour seminar. His main presentation is to Christians.

He did offend my non-believing relative with the put your head under a semi and Bud-Dumber comment. But I felt they both drove home the point to not fall victim to peer pressure very well for the youth in the audience.

I give Creation Science Evangelism 10 out of 10 stars ********** on my Christian ministry review scale! Fear not hearing out the presentation in its entirety. Entertaining and informative.

871 posted on 06/23/2003 9:21:01 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: jennyp
:)
872 posted on 06/23/2003 9:21:42 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: bondserv
I give it a 10 too. LOL I have made over 30 copies of that seminar for others. HIs sarcasm and wit to me, is what I love. I think some are angered by it, but he does not mean to anger folks, he has just done so much research on the topic and loves to share his ideas. I have met him in person 4 times and he is always the same. Jovial, dedicated and sincere. He spends over 300 days a year traveling to do seminars at chruches and such. I so admire his dedication. Have you seen his debates with some of the berkleys?? LOL oh how I enjoyed it. I think (according to Mr. Looy of AIG) that the straw man tape got off topic and AIG did not like it (even I was a little confused on that one but intrigued none the less)
I own every tape in his collection except the algebra set. He is very popular in the homeschool world.
873 posted on 06/23/2003 9:28:05 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Condorman
You are here.
874 posted on 06/23/2003 9:29:33 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: goodseedhomeschool
ah, ah, ah, he is very popular in the "christian" homeschool world.

Please be precise....;)
875 posted on 06/23/2003 9:30:21 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: jennyp; goodseedhomeschool
Wow, you're not supposed to sue one another???

This is true. That is why AIG surprised me with this.

The enemy of God is the Prince of this world, and he likes nothing better than to tear down a believer using another believer.

We are called to be known for the love we have for one another, and disputes can be handled within the church by Godly men who apply the scripture with discernment.

I have witnessed unfairness that was doled out by leadership of a local church against my friend. My friend simply told me "Let it go, those in authority have made the decision and I plan to honor it".

Because of my friends loving attitude of submission, the leadership were brought to the knowledge of the truth and my friend was still in good graces with the leadership. Things worked out for the best because his integrity was manifest clearly before the church.

We shall be known for the love we have for one another and to those we seek to persuade to the knowledge of Jesus' work on the cross.

876 posted on 06/23/2003 9:31:29 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: RadioAstronomer
Is it just me, or has the "signal-to-insult" ratio on this thread gone way up in the last hour and a half?
877 posted on 06/23/2003 9:32:53 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I understand. I do not wish to denigrate your friend to you any further. I will drop it.
878 posted on 06/23/2003 9:34:14 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: longshadow
Isn't it nice? Ahh, the breath of rational discussion and debate, fresh air, much needed oxygen...... It's WONDERFUL!!
879 posted on 06/23/2003 9:35:00 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
sorry Aric I forget. I know there are many non-Christian homeschoolers. Do you know that you really are the first I have met that was not a Chritian. LOL, the homeschool group that I am the coordinator of consists of over 100 families, but then again, it is a Christian group. I guess I need to get out of my bubble sometimes huh? :)
880 posted on 06/23/2003 9:35:38 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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