'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

[goodseedhomeschool]

I read about the ica stones. They fascinate me too. I wonder if maybe, just maybe perhaps somewhere in the Likoala swamps of Africa perhaps, that one day we might find something really awsome like a dino. It would not surprise me at all.

[goodseedhomeschool]

Does anyone have a general link to a site that tells about new species being discovered every year. Kind of like a list or something. I would love to see it.

[RadioAstronomer]

Here is a sample of the insults you bring to the conversation. For the sake of bandwidth, I just limited them to this thread alone.

Post # 11: You'll need permission from the eloons first.
Post # 87: And ConservaBabes are a lot funnier at parties than soured up evo chicks.
Post # 107: Earth to Cobalt.. This thread is about an article where EVOS don't want any challenging theories. Freudian projection?
Post # 131: Your idea of discourse fits in better with Castro's.
Post # 141: That's because their crap religion is all they have.
Post # 154: Oh yeah, no wonder they hate the Good Book.
Post # 204: This is why the heathen doth rage.
Post # 248: getta grip, and see a priest for that hellfire fear thing you got going.
Post # 287: Obviously you don't know much about evolution, but much about nuts.
Post # 292: Latent guilt complex is the likely culprit.
Post # 301: Some rest and a 1/5th of "tonic" should cure that.
Post # 316: You were asked if you are a muslim. Going into a hissy fit over atheism just reveals your real weaknesses, in public.
Post # 338: Yeah, repent. You'll feel better in no time.
Post # 391: Sounds like his ability to explain himself is on a par with his ability to explain evolunacy.
Post # 623: Dishonesty, thy name is elunacy.
Post # 632: check yer drawers
Post # 663: Like I've been saying, you can't prove your crap theory.
Post # 666: u gals must be totally frustrated then.
Post # 671: just another heathkit wannabe...
Post # 673: latex, no doubt..
Post # 674: I bet you only read Playgirl for the scientific articles, right?
Post # 686: Shouldn't you be tending to the blushing bride?
Post # 691: Give it up sparky.
Post # 695: yeah, ya'll better do as patty sez
Post # 696: Calm down reap, before you strip a nut valve...
Post # 709: I thought patty told you to shut yer piehole?
Post # 710: Shouldn't you be taking out the garbage and mowing the lawn?
Post # 716: You're just jealous cuz you gotta go to the zoo to visit yours....
Post # 722: The Closet Collection™?
Post # 723: Actually it looks like you scored Dahmer's Grab Bag on Ebay. Although C kinda reminds me of you. The overbite gave it away...
Post # 760: The chihuahua is back...

Just wanted your pearls of wisdom all recorded in one place.

[RadioAstronomer]

Here is a nice site describing the scientific method and the difference between theory, hypothesis, and fact:

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node5.html

[VadeRetro]

Looks like the posts of a person having a little trouble letting it go. Maybe someone who needs a few devils exorcised?

In fairness to his scientific contributions, post 715 contains a link to a site containing three--Count 'em! Three!--old, recycled gore3K screeds.

[ALS]

hahaha!

i'm flattered

such an obsession...

[ALS]

thanks for the free advertisement!

I take it you've been listening to the CD?

[Timmy]

Your post means nothing. You can't "prove" common ancestry unless you can trace it, and you can do no such thing. I could just as easily point out that people and dogs each have two eyes, two ears, one mouth, and one nose. Hence, common ancestry. But that would be nonsense to sensible people, although I can see some of your evo buddies thinking I may have hit on something. The only way to trace speciation is via the fossil record, or to see it occur. You can do neither. Pointing to similarities in "design" buys you, exactly, nothing. Car designers use 99% of the same features. I imagine a Creator of nature would do likewise.

[cinFLA]

and that science has disproved evolutionary claims numerous times,

Do you chose to believe that or are you brainwashed ....

[cinFLA]

Finally at least one other is knowledgeable on scientific theory.

[cinFLA]

I could just as easily point out that people and dogs each have two eyes, two ears, one mouth, and one nose. Hence, common ancestry.

I have a brain so we must not have a common ancestor.

[Bittersweetmd]

Eric2000, for evolution to be true there should be countless transitional fossils for every fully arrived creature fossil not the other way around. Doesn't your theory say that it took many, many mutations and much survival of the fittest in order for one species to progress into a different more evolved specie. There would have to be coutless fossils of many odd creatures on their way to becoming a species that just didn't make it. Creatures with stubs for wings and partially formed eyeballs, creatures with all kinds of odd combinations and things we would never have imagined existing. Where are the these countless failures that should be overabundunt in supply compared to the few that actually made it?

Good thought Bellflower!

[Timmy]

My gosh. I'm going to choke I'm laughing so hard. You are going to prove transitionals and the first thing I see is dinosaur to bird transtions. Let me wipe away the tears. You don't give us the easy fish to mammal to primate to man, which should be obvious in the fossil record (but of course, isn't). No, you bring up a hoot on the outrageous dinosaur to bird theory. Vade, it couldn't happen. It's in the lungs, dude. You guys are always a theory looking for evidence, rather than the other way around.

Look, my friend, if Darwin was right, you should be able to prove it via the fossils, without these outlandish theories. Just show us the proof. Darwin said it would be everywhere.

[VadeRetro]

I put them in the wrong order so they're all "Poof!" gone and no more need be said? Shall I guess you can keep saying there is no evidence so long as no one can make you see?

[Timmy]

OK, I looked at the speciation link. Give me a break. Plants. Oh, and fruitflies bombarded with radiation which turned into . . . mutated FRUITFLIES. I'm CONVINCED! Everyone. Vade Retro has done it! He's proved Darwin's theory. Who can argue with such overwhelming proof? As sure as gravity, it is.

But seriously, it shows that we should bother to look at your sources to remind us how weak your argument (and evidently, logic) is. Just keep saying it, Vade. I believe. I believe. I believe.

[goodseedhomeschool]

;)

[balrog666]

A nice summary of one of the prime idiots on parade.

Google will remember them long after they are banned for being the adolescent morons that they are.

[VadeRetro]

I believe we have the old argument from personal incredulity here. Are you going to do the 29+ lines of evidence one at a time or just post a few LOLs at number one?

[Timmy]

Actually, Vade, old sport, you're zero for two, so I don't plan to waste my time. If you consider those first two as "proof of evolution," it is difficult to see how we can proceed. Enjoy your belief. I need more evidence to convince myself I evolved from a rock.

Say, have you looked into Professor Crick's theory? You know, the guy who discovered DNA? He believes that aliens landed on the earth millions of years ago and planted the first life that eventually evolved. Said otherwise, there was not enough time available. I'll see if I can get you his phone number.

BwaHaHaHa!!!

(I crack myself up) Though the story about Crick is true.

[Aric2000]

#800, poor creo had lost all link to reality.

What else should I expect.

Reality is something that they just do not like to deal with.