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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: Marysecretary
How can anyone look at a newborn, or see the inside of a body without realizing that it was created with everything we need to survive? We didn't come from a fish or an ape; we were created by the hand of God, in His image. We are so beautifully created. It's magnificent. Non-believers just don't see it that way.

How can you look at a newborn or "the inside of a body" and definitively state, "We come from the hand of god?" do you say the same thing when looking at kittens, or the insides of a bug squashed on your windshield? And as far as being, "beautifully created," I have a laundry list of things wrong with human design. Things that a "perfect design" would assuredly have eliminated.

As for your contention that you didn't "come from a fish or an ape," I'll give a point for that one, since I assure you, you "came from" your parents.

The creationist worldview will eternally fascinate me.
561 posted on 06/23/2003 10:13:23 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Marysecretary
If heaven is a place where I can be free from bible thumping christian fundies, I'll start repenting today.
562 posted on 06/23/2003 10:14:44 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Timmy
there is nothing in the fossil record or visible in nature [that supports evolution]

In another thread, in response to this same claim of yours, I posted evidence that I think provides very strong support indeed, not just for evolution in general, but also for the specific claim that humans and apes share a common ancestry.

I remind you of this because you are still making this 'no evidence for evolution' claim without having shared your thoughts on the apparent fusion in the human number 2 chromosome. You can find links to the relavant messages in that other thread by scrolling up to message #535 in this thread.

563 posted on 06/23/2003 10:17:44 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Marysecretary
There are a lot of scientists who believe in creationism. I think more and more are questioning the theory of evolution. I sure hope so. I have a friend who teaches creationism in high school. He gives lectures on the subject and it's always interesting and amazing.

Yes, this is the latest creationist tactic/obfuscation. Go to one of your websites and forward us the list. But I must warn you, several of your "scientists" will be shown to be frauds and/or misleading. Others will have degrees from non biology fields. But at any rate, who cares? There's always going to be a tiny percentage of loons within a set of people. (ie. Log Cabins Repubs). There may be a couple hundred "scientists" who have problems with evolution... which accounts for an incredibly tiny portion of scientists. A statistically insignificant amount, to be sure.

As for you friend who is busy warping young minds, I'll agree... I too, find it "amazing" that his conscience allows him to spew his nonsense to unknowing kids.
564 posted on 06/23/2003 10:22:16 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Aric2000
The death of evolutionary theory has already occurred, the protests of the Seattle Post Intelligencer notwithstanding. Like most major philosophical shifts, it takes several decades before it becomes common wisdom.
565 posted on 06/23/2003 10:25:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Marysecretary
There are a lot of scientists who believe in creationism.

I can remember the lists of scientists that the ICR and AiG and others toss out there of "scientists who doubt evolution". I think that Project Steve" is an appropriate response to those claims. Project Steve is a list of scientists (named Steve, obviously) who agree that evolution is a viable scientific theory. 220+ Steves, to be exact. If you go with the logic that 1 out of 100 men is named Steve (an over estimate?), than there are tens of thousands of scientists who support evolution, compared to the few hundreds who AiG regularly compiles.

The point behind Project Steve is to show that the ICR and AiG lists are fallacies. Science is not a democracy (or any political system for that matter), however, evidence is king. And right now, the evidence points toward evolution (a blend of Punctuated Equilibrium and Gradualism, to be exact).

566 posted on 06/23/2003 10:25:54 AM PDT by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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PLACEMARKER
567 posted on 06/23/2003 10:31:47 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Steel Eye
Well I must say that I'm disappointed.

Man in black:  Get used to disappointment.

(The Princess Bride, "The Fencing Match")

568 posted on 06/23/2003 10:37:55 AM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Stultis
>>>If that's what science did. In fact it does just the opposite. The whole scientific approach, especially the tentative and revisable status of scientific knowledge, is predicted on the understanding that we can only observe a small part of reality, and that there are inumerable phenomena and data that are not only outside of our observational grasp at any one time, but that we are totatally unaware of. Scientists know that in the future there will inevitably be obeservations that are totally unexpected.


That is a very honest "observation." And written, I might add, without any of the arrogance and condescension so prevalent on these threads. Thank you.

I have stumbled through my life relying on equal parts of both skepticism and faith. As I get older my faith is becoming stronger. And the one thing I have learned for certain, is how little I know, and how pointless it is to take myself too seriously.
569 posted on 06/23/2003 10:48:38 AM PDT by Steel Eye
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To: Junior
>> Get used to disappointment.

LOL. I did. Years ago.
570 posted on 06/23/2003 10:50:33 AM PDT by Steel Eye
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To: Dimensio
are you kidding???? Punctuated equilibrium is a big part of "evolution" theory, at least it was the last time I heard.
571 posted on 06/23/2003 10:58:06 AM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Aquinasfan
Your assertion is patently false, but that never gets in your guys way.
572 posted on 06/23/2003 11:01:27 AM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
are you kidding???? Punctuated equilibrium is a big part of "evolution" theory, at least it was the last time I heard.

It exists as a minority hypothesis within evolutionary theory. And even as such, it has limited application. Most living things are single celled, and their evolution is directly observable. For instance, you can start a bacteria colony from a single individual, and produce colonies resistent to antibiotics in a matter of weeks through mutation and selection.

573 posted on 06/23/2003 11:04:31 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Steel Eye
The Princess Bride is a gold-mine of quotes.
574 posted on 06/23/2003 11:09:59 AM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Junior
>>>The Princess Bride is a gold-mine of quotes.

I was just looking at that.
575 posted on 06/23/2003 11:14:56 AM PDT by Steel Eye
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Good Morning to you....

Sleep well? I didn't, but still was up at 5 and drove to work, UGH!!!
576 posted on 06/23/2003 11:19:00 AM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Steel Eye
It is no wonder so many seek reality, or truth, elsewhere.

LOL. You mean like religion, where there is absolute consensus. Interesting that the Gospel of Thomas, an eyewitness to Jesus, didn't make it into the Bible.

577 posted on 06/23/2003 11:19:17 AM PDT by js1138
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To: whattajoke
Your THEORY is just that, a theory. I believe what the word of God says because He is the ultimate creator. I didn't crawl out of the water and neither did my parents or grandparents. We were made by design, by a creator God who formed us in His image.
578 posted on 06/23/2003 11:43:17 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Marysecretary
Your THEORY is just that, a theory.

Often this statement is considered a sufficient dissenting argument. But it really is an expression of ignorance about how science works. I remind you that everything we understand about how things work in this world is ‘theoretical.’ Architects consult architectural theory. Structural engineers designing a bridge consult structural engineering theory. Medical doctors consult medical theory. Repeat, scientific theories are discoveries of how our natural reality is organized. To the extent a theory is useful it will be used. To the extent a theory is not useful it won’t be used. Given the power and utility of the theories that form the foundation of modern, technological civilization, a statement like the one above reflects a failure to understand this.

I didn't crawl out of the water and neither did my parents or grandparents.

Step one to understanding evolution: Awareness that it takes longer than a generation to manifest itself acutely. Well done.
579 posted on 06/23/2003 11:50:54 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: Timmy
However, we all know (assuming you are, indeed, knowledgeable in this area) there is nothing in the fossil record or visible in nature.

Appeals to "what we all know" so often are just begging the question.

  1. We don't all know that there's nothing in the fossil record.
  2. We don't all know there's nothing visible in nature.
  3. Some of us even think that there are 29+ Lines of Evidence Pointing to Evolution.
I was just wondering if you had found something unbeknownst to the rest of us. Evidently not.

I think you're confusing being pig-ignorant with being "knowledgeable."

580 posted on 06/23/2003 11:55:13 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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