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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: RadioAstronomer
I just finished an extensive one myself, so I know how intense they get!

Do they let the probe warm to body temperature first, or do they just stick it to you, while it's still cold?

1,141 posted on 06/25/2003 1:36:05 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: goodseedhomeschool
In all seriousness, Hovind claims he is some kind of expert in a multidisciplinary field such as paleontology (Hence the nick “Dr. Dino”). If you examine his background (readily available from the links above), you will easily see he has no credentials to support this and can’t be taken too seriously.

It is the equivalent your attorney saying he is compentent to represent you in court because he saw back to back episodes of Law and Order on TNT last night.

1,142 posted on 06/25/2003 1:36:38 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Junior
You have made your point. He must have done something really bad to make you judge him so much and I am sure you have fully researched this issue (sarcasm). Ok junior, you hate him and you think yourself more educated than he is. That's ok. Perhaps you are. I just take issue with labeling "mills". Some may be called that when they should not be. I call a mill a place where you plop down a few bucks and babing, a diploma, no work involved. I really don't think this is the case with PU, but you do so ok.
1,143 posted on 06/25/2003 1:38:47 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: RightWingNilla
No he does not and I think that is where the problem is coming in. I have never ever heard him claim to be an expert of any kind. Have you ever heard him speak or watched a seminar at all. If you had, you would know this. He emphatically states that he is not an expert but that "this is what he thinks".
1,144 posted on 06/25/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I don't see any degrees being offered in any field related to science, nor do I see a Ph.D. being offered.
1,145 posted on 06/25/2003 1:41:13 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
For the last time guys, Dr. Hovind's education is not in science, he has never said that and you need to get this in your head. He is a minister, he taught science in public and private schools for 20 or someodd years and this is his ministry.
1,146 posted on 06/25/2003 1:44:01 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
He is evidently on the outs with at least one creationist organization, Answers in Genesis. Their tiff can be read here.
1,147 posted on 06/25/2003 1:44:17 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I have never ever heard him claim to be an expert of any kind.

Well he does go around calling himself "Dr. Dino".

At the very least, it seems to me he is trying to give the impression he has a doctorate in paleobiology.

1,148 posted on 06/25/2003 1:45:20 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Junior
Who cares if he is on the outs with AIG. I think AIG is becoming much like what they lable the enemy anyway. AIG is not the last word in this area no more so that many of the different evolutionists who disagree on issues too. Most of the people I know, no longer have much respect for AIG because of their backbiting and putting other ministries down for their opnions.
1,149 posted on 06/25/2003 1:47:24 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: RightWingNilla
Dr Dino started as a fun name for him. C'mon guys have any of you ever really heard him? We must stop listening to other people who dislike someone and automatically form judgements on others. You can download Dr Dino's seminars free online. Maybe if you heard him, even if you disagree with what he believes, you would see things more clearly.
1,150 posted on 06/25/2003 1:49:52 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
BTW, the tiff originated over AiG's list of Arguments We Think Creationists Should Not Use. A number of those same arguments appear every time a new crevo thread hits the forum.

Now, mind you, I think AiG's position on the crevo debate is untenable; however, when it comes to creationist organizations they are one of the few that has integrity, which is definitely worthy of respect.

1,151 posted on 06/25/2003 1:50:23 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Junior
This in in your opinion that AIG has more integrity. I hear a very different story form my peers. I know exactly how that whole got started and you might be surprised to know ALL THE DETAILS.
1,152 posted on 06/25/2003 1:52:16 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I hate no one (except for a certain Navy Captain, and he knows who he is). Kent Hovind is a fraud, and it pains me to see someone as good-hearted as you taken in by his deceit. He is not a man of God. He is masquerading as a man of God.
1,153 posted on 06/25/2003 1:53:24 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Junior
I wish you would not feel that way. He is so nice and has done so much. He is very funny too. LOL, he has this one seminar tape called, "How to make money God's way".. He talks about number one, two, three four and five workers. It's guided towards kids and how kids need to learn to be hard workers in the work and homeplace and it is just so good. My son loves it. He also has one for kids about dino and one about health. I wish you did not dislike him so much.
1,154 posted on 06/25/2003 1:56:32 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
They do not post fraudulent quotes as many of their contemporaries do; they try to keep up with the debate (hence their list of arguments not to use). They are not the end-all-be-all of creationists, but they are more upstanding than most.
1,155 posted on 06/25/2003 1:57:54 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: goodseedhomeschool
I like the end of every tape he has where he leads people in the plan of salvation, asking Jesus to come into their life. He gives his testimony on each tape too. He has a great story about how all this got started with him.
1,156 posted on 06/25/2003 1:58:21 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: Junior
Did I post something fraudulent? I was not aware that I did. What was it?
1,157 posted on 06/25/2003 1:59:30 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: Junior
Why do you keep using that word. I told you what I know. I am not a fraud. I wasn't the last time I looked.
1,158 posted on 06/25/2003 2:01:00 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Never said you did.
1,159 posted on 06/25/2003 2:02:23 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: Junior
Sorry I misread your post. oops. :(
1,160 posted on 06/25/2003 2:04:22 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (Jesus Loves us all!)
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