[justshutupandtakeit]

Yes please re-read and remember that GOPcrapitalist defines "union" as "anything I want it to be." Just like a "state" he defines as "anything I want it to be."

Anyone who buys that bogus argument really can't be reasoned with. And maybe they can explain what "their union" meant to Jefferson. Or how these "states" which don't even exist can be kept in a "union" which they have not joined. Or why one should assume that J was referring to anything other than the slight possibility that Congress might allow these territories to form states legally outside the United States of America or that it might allow states to legally seperate from the Union they might have joined. None of these refutes my claim that J. abhored the concept of secession or disUnion though to the less discerning and astute they could complicate the thinking necessary to determine the truth.

Trying to twist J's words to fit his wish is, of course, typical of those attempting to re-write history. But the fact remains that J. never advocated destruction of the Union through unilateral state actions. Hypothetical events possible with the blessings of Congress are something totally different. Of course, he ignores the words of the Constitution I quoted to refute his absurd claims. So re-read those while you are at it.

Oh, don't worry GOPcrapitalist, you have the Obtuse Idiocy Award wrapped up for the next century never in my wildest dreams could I dislodge it from your grasp barring massive brain injury. It can sit on the shelf next to your "I Will Lie for Crumbs" sign and the "1st Prize" from the Misinformation, Disinformation and Preservation of Falsehoods Society of the South.

[GOPcapitalist]

Yes please re-read and remember that GOPcrapitalist defines "union" as "anything I want it to be." Just like a "state" he defines as "anything I want it to be." Anyone who buys that bogus argument really can't be reasoned with.

Pot, kettle...meet black. He will probably inform you that war is peace, night is day, and it all depends upon what the meaning of "is" is.

[mac_truck]

Oh, don't worry GOPcrapitalist, you have the Obtuse Idiocy Award wrapped up for the next century never in my wildest dreams could I dislodge it from your grasp barring massive brain injury. It can sit on the shelf next to your "I Will Lie for Crumbs" sign and the "1st Prize" from the Misinformation, Disinformation and Preservation of Falsehoods Society of the South.

Classic! Well said...