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To: WhiskeyPapa
The people considered themselves as one people and managed their affairs accordingly.

Wrong. The people of the states did not consider themselves to be one people. Their representatives in the federal convention REFUSED to merge the states into one common mass of people. The state conventions ratified SEPARATELY, with some states joining YEARS after the first state to ratifiy. If we were "one people", then it would have required a single ratification. The pontifications of Hamilton, Jay, Story, Marshall, Lincoln et al could not do what the convention and the states repeatedly REFUSED to do.

457 posted on 06/23/2003 5:58:57 PM PDT by 4CJ ("No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the legislature is in session.")
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
If we were "one people", then it would have required a single ratification.

No dreamer would ever say such a thing. When the people act, they act in their states, but the actions do not then become the acts of the states, do they?

Shall I quote McCullough to you?

Walt

459 posted on 06/23/2003 6:52:24 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The pontifications of Hamilton, Jay, Story, Marshall, Lincoln et al could not do what the convention and the states repeatedly REFUSED to do.

Enough loyal Union men came forward to preserve the Union. Their opinion mattered. Yours does not.

Walt

460 posted on 06/23/2003 6:54:01 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The pontifications of Hamilton, Jay, Story, Marshall, Lincoln et al could not do what the convention and the states repeatedly REFUSED to do.

It wasn't the states that put down the rebellion. It was the people.

Walt

473 posted on 06/24/2003 4:06:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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