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To: nolu chan
It's clear in the record that once neither blacks nor whites would support colonization on a large scale that President Lincoln changed his policy and began to prepare for equal rights for them.

The speech you cite is from 8/14/62.

A year later, President Lincoln said:

"Negroes, like other people act upon motives. Why should they do anything for us if we will do nothing for them? If they stake their lives for us, they must be prompted by the strongest motive--even the promise of freedom. And the promise, being made, must be kept."

-- 8/24/83

There's no way to square giveing blacs freedom with forcing them out of the country. President Lincoln's ideas changed. You can cite anything you like from before 1863, but you're easily shown as a partisan of an interpretation that won't bear exposure to the whole record.

Walt

1,793 posted on 07/21/2003 2:06:26 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
[Wlat 1793] It's clear in the record that once neither blacks nor whites would support colonization on a large scale that President Lincoln changed his policy and began to prepare for equal rights for them.

It's clear in the record that The Pimp's ideas did not change until after the passage of The Presidential Reform Act by unanimous vote.

April 1865, Lincoln to General Butler:

But what shall we do with the negroes after they are free? I can hardly believe that the South and North can live in peace, unless we can get rid of the negroes. Certainly they cannot if we don’t get rid of the negroes whom we have armed and disciplined and who have fought with us. . . . I believe that it would be better to export them all to some fertile country with a good climate, which they could have to themselves.

Benjamin F. Butler, Autobiography and Personal Reminiscences of Major-General Benjamin F. Butler: A Review of His Legal, Political, and Military Career (or, Butler’s Book) (Boston: A. M. Thayer & Co. Book Publishers, 1892), p. 903.

1,831 posted on 07/22/2003 3:05:47 AM PDT by nolu chan
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