To: WhiskeyPapa
There is no power in the laws or Constitution to coerce a state. However, the Militia Act of 1792 gives the president the power to put down insurrection. The Supreme Court ruled in 1862 that he was properly applying this power and this opinion is present in both the majority and dissenting opinions in The Prize Cases.The Militia Act does not apply to a state that seceded, even though the central government or a sectional party aggrandizing itself at the expense of other states might assert that it does.
What about New York and Virginia's conditions on ratification of the Constitution that they could resume government again if they wished? I imagine the Federalists knew they could never get the Constitution ratified if they included a "thou shalt not secede" clause in the Constitution. They would have lost New York, Virginia, and I forget who the third state was that expressed similar conditions.
To: rustbucket; WhiskeyPapa
"The Militia Act does not apply to a state that seceded"
Secession is impossible, and seccessionist assertions by rebel conclaves are meaningless.
1,512 posted on
07/11/2003 9:20:03 AM PDT by
Grand Old Partisan
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To: rustbucket
The Militia Act does not apply to a state that seceded...The Supreme Court said otherwise.
Walt
1,532 posted on
07/11/2003 1:44:40 PM PDT by
WhiskeyPapa
(Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
To: rustbucket
What about New York and Virginia's conditions on ratification of the Constitution that they could resume government again if they wished?Based in natural law, not U.S. law.
Under U.S. law, no state may get out of the Union on its own mere resolve.
Walt
1,533 posted on
07/11/2003 1:46:09 PM PDT by
WhiskeyPapa
(Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
To: rustbucket
I imagine the Federalists knew they could never get the Constitution ratified if they included a "thou shalt not secede" clause in the Constitution.Probably not. But they got the phrase "this Constitution and the laws made in pursuance shall be the supreme law of the land..." into the Constitution.
Then they made sure to pass the Judiciary Act of 1789 and the Militia Act of 1792.
And that was all it took -- under law.
Walt
1,535 posted on
07/11/2003 1:49:24 PM PDT by
WhiskeyPapa
(Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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