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To: nolu chan; ought-six; hobbes1; Grand Old Partisan
If you are going to admit that the vast majority were racist, you need to find a different reason for the war.

Why is that? It doesn't take any great stretch to realize that those southerners who were willing to go to war to protect their institution of slavery were not people who believed in equality of the races. Nor does the fact that the North was willing to accept war in order to preserve the Union mean that they believed that blacks were the equal of whites. If you insist on holding people from the 19th century to 21st century definitions of racism then you're going to have your work cut out for you. However, as near as I can tell you seem to feel that only one 19th century individual must be held to those standards.

Even today, we have a government full of former professional students (think Slick Willie) who studied for as long as they felt they needed an academic exemption from the draft.

I realize that being fair may be a foreign concept to you, but you need to add Cheney, Bush, Lott, and Hastert to that list, as well as most of the rest of the leadership in the House and Senate on both sides of the aisle. But does your contempt for them reach the level of your contempt for Robert Lincoln and his father?

You nimrods were pimping Lincoln for paying some other poor slob to join the Army as a substitute. Well now, isn't that special?

I took that to mean that they thought my trivia fact was interesting and nothing more. You seem to be very good and finding meanings that weren't there. But rather than let me speak for them, I'll ask the guys themselves. Were you 'pimping for Abe' as nolu chan said? If you were then stop it! It's upsetting him/her.

1,380 posted on 07/09/2003 3:54:06 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
[nc]If you are going to admit that the vast majority were racist, you need to find a different reason for the war.

[n-s] Why is that? It doesn't take any great stretch to realize that those southerners who were willing to go to war to protect their institution of slavery were not people who believed in equality of the races. Nor does the fact that the North was willing to accept war in order to preserve the Union mean that they believed that blacks were the equal of whites. If you insist on holding people from the 19th century to 21st century definitions of racism then you're going to have your work cut out for you.

You are sounding like Walt.
1,396 posted on 07/09/2003 11:03:48 AM PDT by nolu chan
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