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To: nolu chan
One reads everywhere or almost everywhere that Lincoln had to talk like a racist and vote like a racist because of the racist atmosphere of the time.

One deosn't read that everywhere because it is not true.

"...there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. [Loud cheers.] I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects---certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."

August, 1858

Lincoln did not make what would now be called racist statements. He never said anything stronger than that he didn't -know- if blacks were the moral or intellectual equal to whites.

This is all so ridiculous. Lincoln clearly spoke well of blacks and black soldiers, and he clearly wanted them to have the vote.

People who attack Lincoln are pushing some other agenda.

DEAR FRIEND,

... It was about 8 o'clock A.M., when I called on the president. Upon entering his reception room we found about a dozen persons in waiting, among them two colored women. I had quite a pleasant time waiting until he was disengaged, and enjoying his conversation with others; he showed as much kindness and consideration to the colored persons as to the whites -- if there was any difference, more. One case was that of a colored woman who was sick and likely to be turned out of her house on account of her inability to pay her rent. The president listened to with much attention, and spoke to her with kindness and tenderness. He said he had given so much he could give no more, but told her where to go and get the money, and asked Mrs. C---n to assist her, which she did.

The president was seated at his desk. Mrs. C. said to him, "This is Sojourner Truth, who has come all the way from Michigan to see you." He then arose, gave me his hand, made a bow, and said, "I am pleased to see you."

I said to him, Mr. President, when you first took your seat I feared you would be torn to pieces, for I likened you unto Daniel, who was thrown into the lion's den; and if the lions did not tear you into pieces, I knew that it would be God that had saved you; and I said, if he spared me I would see you before the four years expired, and he has done so, and now I am here to see you for myself.

He then congratulated me upon having been spared. Then I said, I appreciate you, for you are the best president who has ever taken the seat. He replied: 'I expect you have reference to my having emancipated the slaves in my proclamation. But,' said he, mentioning the names of several of his predecessors (and among them emphatically that of Washington), 'they were all just as good, and would have done just as I have done if the time had come. If the people over the river [pointing across the Potomac] had behaved themselves, I could not have done what I have; but they did not, which gave the opportunity to do those things.' I then said, I thank God that you were the instrument selected by him and the people to do it. I told him that I had never heard of him before he was talked of for president. He smilingly replied, 'I had heard of you many times before that.'

He then showed me the Bible presented to him by the colored people of Baltimore, of which you have no doubt seen a description. I have seen it for myself and it is beautiful beyond description. After I had looked it over, I said to him, This is beautiful indeed; the colored people have given this to the head of the government, and that government once sanctioned laws that would not permit its people to learn enough to enable them to read this book. And for what? Let them answer who can.

I must say, and I am proud to say, that I never was treated by any one with more kindness and cordiality than were shown to me by that great and good man, Abraham Lincoln, by the grace of God president of the United States for four years more. He took my little book, and with the same hand that signed the death-warrant of slavery, wrote as follows:

For Aunty Sojourner Truth October 29, 1864

A. LINCOLN

As I was taking my leave, he arose and took my hand, and said he would be pleased to have me call again. I felt that I was in the presence of a friend, and now I thank God from the bottom of my heart that I always have advocated his cause, and have done it openly and boldly. I shall feel still more in duty bound to do so in time to come. May God assist me. "

Found this:

"We feel curious to know what the deluded people of the North think of the present unprecedented high prices of slaves in the South. Just at the very time when Lincoln declares that they are to be emancipated, they command higher prices than ever before. Could anything demonstrate more satisfactorily the futility of his infamous proclamation? The people of the South never felt that the institution of slavery was ever safer than at the present time. The futility of Lincoln's emancipation proclamation eclipses that of the "Pope's bull against the comet," but differs in this, that the Pope's bull against the comet exhibited no evil design, whilst Lincoln's proclamation shows that he was impelled by a motive of a fiendish character. The Pope was innocent of crime, Lincoln was not. The Pope was ignorant of astronomy, Lincoln ignorant of Southern character. The Pope was a fool, Lincoln both fool and knave."

The [Staunton, VA ]Spectator, January 6, 1863, p. 2, c. 2

Quite a contrast.

Walt

1,257 posted on 07/04/2003 3:59:12 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
[nc quoting] One reads everywhere or almost everywhere that Lincoln had to talk like a racist and vote like a racist because of the racist atmosphere of the time.

[Walt] One deosn't (sic) read that everywhere because it is not true.

It is true. Your brother GOP said it right here:

[GOP] Those Lincoln quotes ignore the political context, in which he was trying to win elections in a very racist, predominately (sic) Democrat Illinois.

It was not until his last two years that expediency turned him into a pimp.

1,259 posted on 07/04/2003 7:25:48 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Thank you. I mention the Sojournor Truth episode in my take on Lincoln.
1,311 posted on 07/06/2003 1:01:30 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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