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To: Grand Old Partisan
If the 9th and 10th amendments were in conflict with the supremacy clause, which they are not, it would seem that amendments would take precedence over the main body that was amended.

Funny that the people who added the 9th and 10th amendments apparently didn't see it the way you and Walt do. Why did they go through the trouble to add the amendments?
1,221 posted on 07/03/2003 9:08:33 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
"it would seem" -- to you, but not to the Supreme Court, Congress, or the President. Perhaps that part of the Constitution should be called "the Rustbucket supremacy clause."
1,222 posted on 07/03/2003 9:18:06 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: rustbucket
Funny that the people who added the 9th and 10th amendments apparently didn't see it the way you and Walt do.

I think we have to assume that the Supreme Court was cognizant of the 9th and 10th amendments when they ruled --unanimously-- that the president was authorized --under the Militia Act -- to put down the rebellion.

I wonder if the federalists didn't acquiesce in the 9th and 10th amendments knowing they could pass the Judiciary Act of 1789 and the Militia Act of 1792, and immediately make them null.

To give the amendments the power you suggest would be to say there was no government at all.

Walt

1,229 posted on 07/03/2003 11:38:27 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: rustbucket
If the 9th and 10th amendments were in conflict with the supremacy clause, which they are not...

They are not in conflict, correct.

Amendment IX

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

One of the enumerated rights -clearly- is that the laws of the United States are the supreme law of the land.

Amendment X

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

Now, one of the powers delegated to the United States lies in the supremacy clause, which reads:

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

The fact is that United States law is supreme to any state right, or even of the people.

This is because the -people- make the laws.

The 9th and 10th amendments have absolutely nothing to do with the legality or lack thereof of secession. They don't even come into play. This is because the --laws--of--the--United--States-- include the Judiciary Act of 1789 and the Militia Act of 1792.

Those laws are supreme -- no state law, ordinance, or document can budge them -- just as the Supreme Court said --unanimously-- in the Prize Cases.

Walt

1,245 posted on 07/03/2003 4:47:44 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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