Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'

Ananova ^ | 5-21-2003

[ALS]

aww shoot

I've been holding out for diamonds and fast cars then here you come along and ruin the ambience...

[Right Wing Professor]

Here's something to chew on. I know an IDer on the faculty here at UNL. He's very good at what he does. I won't say too much more about him, because I don't want to identify him, but I did hook him up with a student ID interest group as faculty advisor. (They initially asked me, because they thought, because I'm a conspicuous campus conservative, I must be an IDer. That's how serious the problem of creationism is in modern conseratism, boys and girls) He's violently deluded about evolution, of course, but he's a good scientist. I think most of his colleagues are aware of his views, and because it doesn't impact his immediate field, they leave him alone. Scientists are really pretty tolerant, in the good sense, even about stuff they personally believe is fringe nonsense. None of us are so 100% certain we're right we'll destroy someone's career over it.

Of course, I tell him it's fringe nonsense. He deserves to know the truth. :-)

[Lurking Libertarian]

and all this time I thought you were arguing in favor of evolution. how embarassing to all those that have been blindly supporting your every word.

If you don't know that I am a theistic evolutionist, you haven't been reading my posts. And why would you think that theistic evolution is "embarassing" to other evolutionists?

[ALS]

Are there any scientists that refute evolunacy that you don't label as "violently deluded"?

[ALS]

compromise

[Right Wing Professor]

ALS is an ALL American Conservative MAN.

Oh yeah. Guy who starts calling his adversaries 'gals' and 'cows' as soon as he's tripped up. Yeah, that's one numero uno pure blooded XY male. No insecurities there.

Y'know, as the wife keeps telling me, it is worrying when someone regards the feminine as an insult, don't ya think, conservababejen?

[Lurking Libertarian]

[Me:] "Every one of ALS's quotes that I have been able to check has either been bogus or taken out of context."

[You:] extreme statement placemarker (note the disclaimer in italics)

You have not provided links for your quotes, so it is difficult to find them (if they're real at all). The ones I have found have either been misleadingly taken out of context, or edited to mean the opposite of what the author intended.

[ALS]

now go focus on the ones you side stepped

[Right Wing Professor]

'Refute' doesn't mean what you probably think it does. But in any case, no, the scientific evidence for evolution is so overwhemlming I regard rejection of it as deluded to the point of irrationality (or inexcusable ignorance)

[conservababeJen]

Got yourself a Lefty Feminist Wifey, do ya?

[Lurking Libertarian]

However, Turkey Lurkey Libertarian was on this debunking kick and I was just feeding him more straw. he couldn't debunk it either

(a)Why the name-calling? ("Turkey Lurkey"? That's an argument?)

(b)Why would I want to debunk a fellow theistic evolutionist?

[ALS]

"'Refute' doesn't mean what you probably think it does. But in any case, no, the scientific evidence for evolution is so overwhemlming I regard rejection of it as deluded to the point of irrationality (or inexcusable ignorance)"

that's very open minded of you professor.
did i leave out "scientific"?
So let me get this straight. Anyone who refutes evolution is deluded and irrational, correct?

[ALS]

"However, Turkey Lurkey Libertarian was on this debunking kick and I was just feeding him more straw. he couldn't debunk it either

(a)Why the name-calling? ("Turkey Lurkey"? That's an argument?)

(b)Why would I want to debunk a fellow theistic evolutionist?"

sorry son, but you are way past all the punchlines

and worse, you've failed to put everything in.... "CONTEXT"!

horrors

[Right Wing Professor]

Everything I post is the truth. Of course, on the internet, no one's a dog. But she, like me, is a non-notorious person, with a different surname (otherwise I wouldn't be mentioning her) who happens to know said washed up celeb. as a family friend. Just one of those 6 degress of separation thangs. So now you're three degrees of separation from your hero/ine.

(And the abuse I get for bringing people closer)

[Right Wing Professor]

No, 'refute' doesn't mean what you probably think it does. Goddamn it man, you've been speaking it your whole life, try to get literate in it, OK?

[ALS]

"Everything I post is the truth."

famous last words

and totally lacking piety
NOT

btw prof. - do you know the difference between truth and fact?

[general_re]

'Refute' doesn't mean what you probably think it does.

"Deny" is probably a better word in this context. Some (foolish and bigoted) people deny the reality of the Holocaust - no one has yet managed to "refute" it.

[ALS]

what does refute mean that I don't think it means professor

[Lurking Libertarian]

now go focus on the ones you side stepped

Do you mind giving me the hyperlinks?

[ALS]

so you equate the holocaust with the death of evolution?