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To: RaceBannon
Thank you for your response. I am well aware of the context of that passage, regarding His patience with us. We would fail to exist if not for His benevolence!

"2 Pet 3:8 KJV) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Just the same, Peter is reminding us that God is not confined to the same constraints of time that man is--He created time.
When I discuss with promoters of the evolution theory (which is based greatly on faith as much as creationism is), and am faced with their scientific "proof" of the ages of various things, despite the errors of carbon dating, I have no qualms in giving them that leeway in that God did not say how long His day was.
He was also communicating to us His plan on how to live and work (time-schedule-wise), and setting our lives on HIS schedule. (wish I could keep mine on His schedule always!!)

And once again, where do you stand on John 6:44-6:66??? ;)

635 posted on 05/13/2003 8:43:44 AM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (ad majorem dei gloriam!)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom
You are making great error, though, when you take a reference to God's willingness to allow us time to repent, and then applying it to a time period that God himself defined for us in Genesis 1.

While God may not have spelled out how many hours and minutes are in a day, He clearly told us that a day is the completion of the cycle of daylight and sunlight.

To then take that clear definition of what a day is, for that is how we define day, and then say that a day could 'mean' a 1000 year period or even an indeterminite time period based on an obvious analogy spoken of by Peter, that is not rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

As for John 6, I dont understand, where did this question come in on a thread of Creationism?? :)

I believe that the Flash and Blood spoken of here, is the Doctrine that Jesus is the Christ, who came to die for the sins fo the World, and that we must fully believe on Who He is and Why He came, that we must fully place our trust in Him as Saviour, not our works or deeds or looks to get by on Earth, it is to be a life full of Jesus Christ, knowing Him, trusting Him, consuming who He is and digesting that inour thoughts and soul in order to live the full Christian Life.

Without fully taking into ourselves who He is, taking it all in, the completeness of who He is, we will never fully mature as Chrsitians.

Otherwise, if we take this passage as literal, we would have to physically eat Jesus as canibals. There are clear statements designed to make us understand a doctrine spoken through analogy, and some as commands.

Genesis 1 and 2 is both, but it is written in specific order, with clear instructions, such as the order of Creation, what came first. That order, which is clearly spoken of as to what came first, is so opposed to the order of the false doctrine of evolution, that the Bible cannot be reconcilled to evolution in any way.

So, if your point to me was to mention why didnt I take John 6 as literal, but take Genesis 1-2 as literal and how that is consistent, then you didnt think through what the opposing doctrines think. While Genesis is not a science book, it does contain enough evidences for Creation and how it happened by God's hand, that when we examine evolution, the two cannot be reconciled unless the person holding the Bible ignores not only what they claim as metaphor or similie or hyperbola, but they must ignore what they clearly just read as to the order of events of Creation when compared to the supposed order of evolution.

If the Bible is supposed to tell the Creation story just in an anolgous way, then it would NOT have the order of events completely mixed up! The analogy should also be in the same order of the evolutionary events, shouldnt it?

Yet, it does not. Not at all. Plants before the Sun is even made. The Sun supposedly came before the Earth according to evo people, but the Earth came first on Day 1 in the Bible.

Metaphor/Similie/hyperbola do not excuse away that drastic a change of the order of events.

False, Satanic Doctrine does.
684 posted on 05/13/2003 11:19:58 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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