To: Aric2000
There you go again, we have explained this to you MANY times already, and yet you continue to use it as an argument. Evolution does NOT claim that something came from NOTHING. It claims that something made this something change into this something, not that this NOTHING became this something. That is abiogenesis, a totally different theory and scientific endeavor. So you just assume that matter always existed (how unscientific). To quote The Church Lady How convenient!!! So you just ignore the tough questions and laugh at other theories that try to address them.
Evolution as cosmology does not get off that easily. If you believe Evolution is what created the universe ignoring the origin of matter does not mean you dont have to deal with it. The first principle you have to deal with in cosmology is what created matter. Ignoring it does not mean you got a free pass. As a Darwinist you get three possible starting points: 1. something came from nothing. 2. matter always existed (despite the big band). 3. a miracle happened. All three starting points are illogical and unscientific. That means evolution as an explanation of the origin of the universe starts on a very faulty foundation - Orthodox Darwinists are people that dont understand this.
Evolution takes that which was ALREADY there, and tries to explain how this came about from that.
So you don't worry your pretty little head about how the stuff that was already there got there in the first place.
To: Last Visible Dog
Evolution as cosmology does not get off that easily. No, it doesn't. It may take electroshock therapy to cure you.
368 posted on
05/12/2003 1:22:40 PM PDT by
PatrickHenry
(Theory: a comprehensible, falsifiable, cause-and-effect explanation of verifiable facts.)
To: Last Visible Dog
You are finally getting a clue, nice to see that.
369 posted on
05/12/2003 1:23:10 PM PDT by
Aric2000
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To: Last Visible Dog
If you believe Evolution is what created the universe
I'm not aware of any hypothesis of universe origins that involves alelle frequencies changing over time. Could you provide a source for this "evolution created the universe" hypothesis?
370 posted on
05/12/2003 1:23:53 PM PDT by
Dimensio
(Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
To: Last Visible Dog
So you don't worry your pretty little head about how the stuff that was already there got there in the first place.You're beginning to get it.
372 posted on
05/12/2003 1:26:50 PM PDT by
js1138
To: Last Visible Dog
So you don't worry your pretty little head about how the stuff that was already there got there in the first place.Perhaps, oh, just maybe, the theories about where the stuff came from in the first place isn't part of the Theory of Evolution?
I mean, when reading Romeo and Juliet, we don't require Shakespeare to go to the Night of Conception for the two principals, we sort of assume something of the sort happened and let the play proceed from there, secure in the knowledge that a theory exists to cover the presences of R and J without the gritty details.
For Evolution, we asusme that matter exists to interact with itself, without worrying our heads too much about where it came from, for the purposes of that theory, anyway. Evolution is a theory about how the organization of matter changes, it is not a theory about where the stuff came from.
To: Last Visible Dog
Evolution,NEVER asks the question, because that question is not answerable through evolution.
There are totally different scientific endeavors that are trying to find those answers.
Evolution has a enough on it's plate already, without delving into those questions that are not necessary to the basic theory anyway.
379 posted on
05/12/2003 1:30:15 PM PDT by
Aric2000
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