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To: supercat
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it.

It cannot refer to an indeterminite time period, for that would make the modifiers of evening and morning indeterminite time periods also.

The simplest explanation is often the most accurate, and in this case, it is proven acurate again and again.

Also, Exodus chapter 20:
(Exo 20:11 KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

If the reference to a 6 day creation is not a literal 6 days, then here where God speaks to Moses is a lie, also.

Those who claim to believe the Bible and evolution cannot answer these things without dismissing entire portions of Scrripture as fiction.
29 posted on 05/11/2003 7:07:38 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it.

Exactly. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

41 posted on 05/11/2003 7:37:10 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: RaceBannon
If the reference to a 6 day creation is not a literal 6 days, then here where God speaks to Moses is a lie, also.

Yet many of the Church fathers disagree with you. Who is your source?

46 posted on 05/11/2003 7:48:25 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RaceBannon
But if God rested on the seventh day, does that mean he got tired?
54 posted on 05/11/2003 7:58:24 PM PDT by plusone
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To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it.

Absent the Sun (and the Moon), what do the terms "morning" and "evening" mean? Remember those were not created until IIRC the third day.

Even after the Sun and Moon were created, to what geographical region did the terms "morning", "evening", and "day" apply? Remember that, except during a solar eclipse, it's always "day" somewhere on the planet and "night" somewhere else.

57 posted on 05/11/2003 8:31:13 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it.

How long is God's morning and evening? For that matter, how does time move in God's frame of reference, compared to ours?

58 posted on 05/11/2003 8:34:02 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: RaceBannon
If the reference to a 6 day creation is not a literal 6 days, then here where God speaks to Moses is a lie, also.

Did Adam and Eve somehow count and record the number of days since their creation? What determines the starting point for counting days? How do you know that God's Sabbath isn't really on a Tuesday?

Also, does the Bible anywhere define where the international date line should be? Should someone in Israel celebrate the Sabbath 12 hours before or twelve hours after someone in California? How do you know?

Clearly one day in seven is to be reserved as a day of rest and worship, and clearly that day is to be celebrated uniformly to the extent possible (though on a fully-populated globe there must necessarily either be people who celebrate the Sabbath many hours apart in actual time, or who celebrate it many hours apart in local time.

63 posted on 05/11/2003 8:46:47 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: RaceBannon
So how old do you believe the Earth to be?
71 posted on 05/11/2003 9:01:02 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: RaceBannon
Not to get into an argument here, but the fact of the matter is, different translations use different terminology. I've been told, for example, that the Greek Septuagint uses the equivalent of "periods of time" vice day. As far as your "morning" and "evening" argument is concerned, a synonomous meaning could be "beginning" and "ending."
153 posted on 05/12/2003 9:30:48 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: RaceBannon
Since in the Book of Genesis Chapter 1, and 2, the term DAY is modified with the term morning and evening, it obviously refers to a lteral day of 24 hours as we know it. It cannot refer to an indeterminite time period, for that would make the modifiers of evening and morning indeterminite time periods also. The simplest explanation is often the most accurate, and in this case, it is proven acurate again and again. Also, Exodus chapter 20: (Exo 20:11 KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. If the reference to a 6 day creation is not a literal 6 days, then here where God speaks to Moses is a lie, also. Those who claim to believe the Bible and evolution cannot answer these things without dismissing entire portions of Scrripture as fiction.

Your theory is thrown out the window with this verse spoken by Jesus himself:

Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Those who don't understand that the mysteries are written in parables will think the bible says that the earth was created in six 24 hour days. Those that understand that parables explain the mysteries of creation will understand that a day is a time period, that evenings and mornings are the beginnings and ends of the time periods.

216 posted on 05/12/2003 11:26:55 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: RaceBannon
Christ is pretty clear, when He is quoted as saying that, "He that made them in the Beginning," speaking particularly of human beings, "made them male and female." We can let the Creator himself speak on His behalf about such matters, but also realize that the theistic evolutionist must come to grips with the compromise he has made since it flies in the face of his theology as much as it flies in the face of science itself.

Peter even in his time described those who would be the scoffers who would deny that the Flood itself ocurred.

Nothing new here. The evolutionist challenges both Moses and Christ. When he challenges Christ, he challenges the deity of Christ, as well. So it all boils down to this: either Jesus Christ is the Creator-God (as outlined in the Gospel of John), or random chance is the creator god.

For one who is a Christian, the choice is clear. Theisitic evolution does not merit consideration for those who adhere to what Moses wrote (as inspired by the Creator-God) or to what Christ, the Creator-God himself, is quoted as saying. Those who choose not to believe Christ (as many agnostics on these threads do not) will be inclined to believe in anything else but Christ.

304 posted on 05/12/2003 12:33:39 PM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: RaceBannon
Just for discussion (as that is what FR is for :) ), There is a scripture that says, "A day is as a thousand years to God, and a thousand years as a single day". This could help explain that in the beginning, before God created man, time was not necessary to record. Perhaps he did take 1000 or more days for each day...maybe to test the faith of His people?

Another question: you must believe that the Bible is to be taken literally in every single part. Do you believe and accept John 6:44 through 6:66??? Jesus lost many followers (John 6:66) because they refused to take Him literally.
377 posted on 05/12/2003 1:28:54 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (ad majorem dei gloriam!)
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