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Creationists tell us what they think ALL the time, we do not need to be mindreaders.

You tried to tell us what Creationists think. Fact is you just don’t know – you are making it up. You are pretending you can read their minds (know what their thought process is). The fact is you DON”T KNOW. Your position in this debate must be really weak if you have to resort to mind-reading and telling other people what they really think.

Many say that if Creationism is NOT TRUE, then you might as well throw the rest of the bible away as well, and other silly and inane comments.

Address this to a Creationists – I am not one. I take positions against the arrogance of orthodox Darwinists. My position is: we don’t know it all and evolution appears to be a piece of the puzzle but it clearly is not the entire puzzle. Until you can present real scientific evidence that God did not create the universe, please stop pretending like its true.

If Creationism is debunked in a creationists eyes, their entire worldview will come into question, and that is one thing that will not stand with a creationist.

Only in your personal mind. (again, you are trying to force your way of thinking on everybody – it does not work that way). Please explain HOW Creationism could EVER be “debunked” – if you can’t explain that one, now maybe you are starting to see the flaws in your thinking.

That is why they try and debunk evolution, come up with silly theories, such as ID and try to claim that it is science, and other questionable acts.

Science has “debunked” a lot of “evolution fact” – there is nothing silly about debunking a scientific theory unless this theory has become dogma in your mind.

The creationist worldview is based on a very fragile foundation, and if it is cracked, it will all come tumbling down.

Will you stop with the mind reading. You have not been elected official Spokesmodel of Worldwide Creationism so stop pretending like you have. You know you have a weak position when you have to retort to telling us what other people “really” think.

I see Orthodox Darwinists clinging to their dogma with just about the same amount of zeal as the Creationists.

No need for mind reading. Creationists have told us this themselves.

So every Creationist has talked to you therefore you are in a position to tell us how all of them think. Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t that textbook bigotry?

I did not make up ONE little bit of that post.

When I say that creationists have said it, I mean it, I never said ALL creationists, you are the one that put that in there.

and arrogance of orthodox Darwinists, what an interesting and quaint phrase. You are a touchy one, aren't you?

You will not find ANY Orthodox Darwinists here, sorry to disappoint you, but if science disproves any part of evolution, we will be the first to admit it, and educate ourselves on what has replaced it.

The way creationism is "debunked" as you say, is if the creation myth is used as a morality tale and NOT taken literally. That is the problem, they wish to use it literally as what happened, but if evolution is indeed true, then it cannot be taken literally and should be taken as a tale on morality.

What, you think that evolution is religion or something, you need to get your facts straight as well, evolution is science, and the theory will change as new facts, fossils, etc are brought to light and put into the puzzle.

Anyone who says that evolution is some religious doctrine and never changing is clueless about science, and I promise, those of us who are "evolutionists" know about the changing nature of science and it's theories.

You need to get a grip, there are NO Orthodox Darwinists here for you to debate with, although that is a quaint phrase, and it would be just as much fun for us to debate a person like that, then it is to debate creationists.

And you sure like to put words into peoples mouths, creationists have told us this themselves, any other creationists, I have never claimed to speak for or to them, you are the one that took that leap.

I have stated what creationists have told me, nothing more, it is quite easy from that information, to tell almost exactly what they will say to a given argument at just about any point.

I will admit that some do surprise, but the thinking and trees of "logic" so to speak are pretty much the same.

How about you come down off your high horse for a few mintues and have a real discussion, instead of putting words in peoples mouths, and trying to read our minds.

Orthodox Darwinists, gotta love that.....LOL

what the hell is an orthodox Darwinist? (other than another fanciful concept from the ID world). Darwin was merely a man, a god fearing man at that. And you claim WE are the ones speaking for the "other side?!"

Your idea about presenting all the "myths" and letting 14 year olds think for themselves is oh-so-admirable. But its a bunch of hooey. That would be more suited for creative writing class, not biology. Does "Last Thusdayism" get equal time? What about Timmy's idea that he came up with after eating the paste that says, "Timmy created the universe in a dream when Timmy was 5?" Does that get equal time.

Here's a novel idea: Let the scientists stick to science and teach biology as we currently KNOW to be true. It's not that difficult. Let the religionists continue to preach their ideas at church. End of story. Any kid who is confronted with the ridiculously obvious truths behind the scientific ideas will rightly place his religious myth where it belongs: in the "nice story" bin.

Sheesh.