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Notre Dame priest: Creationism debate unique to U.S.
The Bozeman Daily Chronicle ^ | 2003-05-11 | Walt Williams

Posted on 05/11/2003 4:38:14 PM PDT by Junior

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To: general_re
Thank you for making it an enjoyable evening – it was fun destroying your silly disrupter arguments.
901 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:14 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Aric2000; PatrickHenry
woohoo, I got 900.

Hah, I beat you!! LOL
902 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:18 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: general_re
If I learn french that is evolution ... if I quit drinking --- that is evolution too !
903 posted on 05/14/2003 9:12:04 PM PDT by f.Christian (( the VERY sick mind - won't recognize facts -- REALITY -- probability anymore ! ))
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To: Last Visible Dog
In other words, you can't support this notion of "evolution as cosmology", you know you can't support it, and you're going to spare yourself the embarrassment of trying. Hey, you're welcome...
904 posted on 05/14/2003 9:12:09 PM PDT by general_re (No problem is so big that you can't run away from it.)
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To: general_re
How is the process of the "evolution of the cosmic structure" similar to the process of biological evolution?

What is they are both types of evolution, a gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

What do I win Alex?

905 posted on 05/14/2003 9:14:35 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: general_re
In other words, you can't support this notion of "evolution as cosmology", you know you can't support it, and you're going to spare yourself the embarrassment of trying. Hey, you're welcome...

So now you are back to claiming evolution has nothing to do with any theories of the universe in totality (cosmology). Scroll up disrupter, that point was disproved yesterday (many times with many pieces of supporting evidence)

One thing you are - predictable. As soon as your butt is nailed to the wall you change the subject.

906 posted on 05/14/2003 9:19:07 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
In other words, you can't support this notion of "evolution as cosmology", you know you can't support it, and you're going to spare yourself the embarrassment of trying. Hey, you're welcome...

BTW: how are you doing to address the book I present as evidence that evolution is part of cosmology?

907 posted on 05/14/2003 9:20:56 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
What is they are both types of evolution, a gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

Oh, good - more succinctly, they both involve "change". I guess I shouldn't really be surprised, since I predicted exactly this sort of vague handwaving several hundred posts ago. The mechanisms are completely different, just like "building a house" isn't the same process as "building a Hummer", but I suppose it would be crass to interrupt your little touchdown dance by pointing that out...

908 posted on 05/14/2003 9:21:05 PM PDT by general_re (No problem is so big that you can't run away from it.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
how are you doing to address the book I present as evidence that evolution is part of cosmology?

Well, I figure that once you actually read the thing, you might be armed to present something resembling an argument about how the evolution of cosmic structure is the same process as biological evolution. Until then, it's kind of hard to argue with a title...

909 posted on 05/14/2003 9:22:32 PM PDT by general_re (No problem is so big that you can't run away from it.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
883
910 posted on 05/14/2003 9:23:21 PM PDT by general_re (No problem is so big that you can't run away from it.)
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To: general_re
WAH!!! I am too right, and I am gonna sit here and hold my breath until you admit it!!!
911 posted on 05/14/2003 9:23:30 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: general_re
"evolution as placemarker" placemarker

"fallacy of converse accident" placemarker

"'building a Hummer' is an adverbial clause" placemarker

"exect alluting" placemarker

912 posted on 05/14/2003 10:16:05 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
generic "making sh*t up" placemarker...
913 posted on 05/14/2003 10:19:55 PM PDT by general_re (No problem is so big that you can't run away from it.)
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To: Aric2000
woohoo, I got 900. Hah, I beat you!! LOL

Nine as 900 placemarker.

914 posted on 05/15/2003 3:32:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Agamemnon
An "I guess I'm just an idiot" placemarker (why, oh why cannot I not just ignore the apparent contradictions and believe there are none despite the evidence?).
915 posted on 05/15/2003 3:49:13 AM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: general_re
Well, I figure that once you actually read the thing, you might be armed to present something resembling an argument about how the evolution of cosmic structure is the same process as biological evolution. Until then, it's kind of hard to argue with a title...

Well Disrupter, you can go right on pretending that evolution is not the key principle in nearly ALL non-religion based cosmological theories. And you can also go on pretending that the word evolution can only mean Darwinism. You are not here to debate or exchange ideas – you are here to disrupt.

916 posted on 05/15/2003 6:23:05 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: music_code
That is probably true.
917 posted on 05/15/2003 6:23:14 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Aric2000
I don't think so, but I don't know you.
918 posted on 05/15/2003 6:25:08 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Jorge
Is a belief a truth or a lie? Doesn't there have to be some form of proof in order to have a truth or a lie?
919 posted on 05/15/2003 6:35:34 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Dimensio
The whole world intuitively understands that there must be a God. Man suppresses this truth because he is evil, but he cannot quite escape from it either.

Right. It really helps that you don't have to do anything but assert this. This way, you can claim to be right without having to pony up any evidence.

You're intellectually bankrupt. Your position is completely without merit. You have no means of demonstrating that what you say is truth.

Perhaps this will help:

1. Some things undeniably exist.

2. My non-existence is possible.

3. Whatever has the possibility not to exist is currently caused to exist by another.

4. There cannot be an infinite regress of current causes of existence.

5. Therefore, a first uncaused cause of my current existence exists.

6. This uncaused cause must be infinite, unchanging, all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-perfect.

7. This infinitely perfect being is appropriately called "God".

8. Therefore, God exists.

9. This God who exists is identical to the God described in the Christian Scriptures.

10. Therefore, the God described in the Bible exists.

920 posted on 05/15/2003 6:55:49 AM PDT by music_code
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