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To: Polycarp
Here's my reply from the original thread, if you're interested:

"From the time he was 13 to 15, he had a steady girlfriend, and was a quiet, well adjusted, normal kid.

At age 15 he was sexually molested by three male homosexuals, and in the process was introduced to drugs (need those whip its to open up a virginal anal sphincter, you know) and heavy alcohol abuse. He has lived a self destructive homosexual lifestyle ever since, a lifestyle induced by molestation and coerced drug and alcohol use at an early age."

Victimology is a trademark of the democratic party, not the republican party. If your friend were truly heterosexual, he would be leading the life of one. Perhaps the reason he is "self-destructive" is because he has friends like you who view him as less than human because of his sexual orientation.

"His life has been destroyed by these fags, and you have the nerve to criticize me?"

Yup, I'll criticize anyone who makes public posts on this board that are contrary to freedom and liberty, not to mention hate-filled, as I believe they are.

"This type of predatory sexual abuse of young teenage boys is typical chickenhawking homosexual behavior. I've seen it so many times its enough to make me vomit.

And I guarantee if any of them ever touches one of my boys, I'll kill the bastard."

Them? Here's a news flash: not every homosexual is a 'predator'. In fact, the vast majority are not. In fact, there are heterosexuals that molest children. I know it must be hard for you to swallow that one, but yes, it's true. In fact, in terms of sheer numbers, I am confident that many more children are molested by heterosexuals than are molested by homosexuals. So, your outrage is, to say the least, a smidge misdirected.

"Furthermore, the credibility of my entire Church has been undermined by homosexuals who infiltrated its priesthood and systematically buggered its teenage altar boys for years."

The credibility of your Church has been undermined by a group of pedophiles. That group of deviants is different than those who are homosexuals. I'm sorry you can't differentiate the two.

"And the same jacka$$es (like you) who would criticize the Church for this buggering, also criticize the Church for being so "intolerant" of the homosexual agenda."

Actually, "jacka$$es" like me would recommend the Church's teaching on homosexuals to you. I've heard a lot more compassion from the Church towards homosexuals than I've ever seen in one of your posts.

"Thus the call for lowering the age of consent for homosexual sex across the board by the homo movement."

If you can prove 1) that the "homo movement" speaks for all homosexuals or 2) that pro-gay groups have actively campaigned for lowering the age of consent, please show your cards. Of course, if this is a specious lie, which I suspect it is, you lose even more credibiility.

"The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to this Republic and the institution of the family upon which all decent societies are built."

Another news flash: heterosexuals are doing far more damage to the "family upon which all decent societies are built" than any homosexual could ever dream of doing. Please educate yourself as to marriage and divorce rates over the past 50 years. Additionally, heterosexuals are responsible in large part for children growing up in single family homes and otherwise impoverished. Again, your passion is ridiculously misdirected.

"The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to our health system."

This doesn't even deserve a response. It is laughable, not to mention unsubstantiated.

"Mankind has spent several millenia developing effective and sanitary methods of disposing human waste.

Mankind knows that human waste is the source of deadly diseases."

Believe it or not, there are plenty of heterosexuals that engage in anal sex. I know that must come as a shock to your puritannical mindset, but it's true.

Inasmuch as you have cited medical studies from various sources, some dubious and some not, the prevalence of various diseases in the "gay population" really doesn't have much to do with a "health crisis." If you are interested in avoiding STDs like hepatitis and the like, simply don't have sex with multiple partners, and make sure those that you do have sex with are clean.

Your mentality of attacking an entire group of people just because it may be more likely to result in higher disease rates is akin to the liberal attack on smokers, the nazi attempt to remove certain types from the gene pool, and an affront to the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution in general.

If a homosexual, or a heterosexual, or a bisexual, or whatever, wishes to have sex a mentally competent adult who agrees, the fact that it is high risk behavior gives neither you nor me the right to prevent them from engaging in that activity.

I believe in personal responsibility, you apparently believe in paternalism and regulation of individual behavior.

That's not what this country is about. This country is about individual rights and the freedom to run your life as you desire.

I'm sorry you don't understand that.

"Any further "wonderings," Smuck?"

Nope, you've adequately explained to me that you can't justify your attacks and that your passion is woefully misdirected and irrational.

Thanks, though.

Trace
82 posted on 05/01/2003 5:54:06 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Trace21230
Here's my reply to you, from the original thread, if you're interested:

The credibility of your Church has been undermined by a group of pedophiles. That group of deviants is different than those who are homosexuals.

There have been no more than 1% of cases of true pedophilia (sex with a child under 12) in the hundreds of molestation cases that make up the currect Church scandal.

The vast majority (over 90%) involve homosexual molestation of teenage BOYS by MALE priests (call it homosexual ephebophilia if you like, or pederasty, or the popular fag term, "Chickenhawking.)

Since you so demonstrably lied on this whopper, I feel no compunction to waste my time shooting down the rest of them.

The conservative readers of this Forum know that you are simply a mouthpiece for the homosexual propaganda machine.

I'm not worried about which one of us is perceived to be telling the truth here.

91 posted on 05/01/2003 6:04:05 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: Trace21230
>>This country is about individual rights and the freedom to run your life as you desire.

That's fine. Just don't force me to accept clearly abnormal behavior as normal.

The weight of the PC liberal left wing conspiracy comes down like a ton of bricks on anyone who says that. And just witness the lack of "tolerance", by this same crew, of the kid who wore the "Straight Pride" shirt to school, the same school that was encouraging pink triangle-wearing, and shoving "homosexual lifestyle is normal" down all students' throats.

Straight Pride

102 posted on 05/01/2003 6:13:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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