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HIV-Positive Teacher Charged With Having Sex With Student (sexual assault and child endangerment)
Local6/AP ^ | 4/7/03 | ap

Posted on 04/07/2003 9:26:14 AM PDT by Jael

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To: Clint N. Suhks
My complaint is with calling abuse to pubescent’s and postpubescent’s pederasty and NOT pedophilia. Did you know over 50% of child sex abuse happens at this age period?

NOW we're getting somewhere. Why are you quoting statistics on "pedophilia" then? According to your post #9, Freund's data, homosexuals are pedophiles in disproportionate numbers. That's false, the child-abuse experts say it's false, the position that it's false is recognized by many non-political, non-biased organizations.

"Oh, but wait", you say -- "that's because pedophile statistics ignore pederasts! Pederasts aren't included in the data! They should be, but they aren't! Wah!"

And the question remains: Why are you continuing to quote clinical studies of "pedophiles" when the very definition of "pedophile" ignores the age-range that 'proves' your position? That's your complaint, isn't it, that the clinical definition of "pedophile" isn't broad enough?

121 posted on 04/10/2003 1:05:44 PM PDT by JoshGray
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To: Jael
It sickens me too.
122 posted on 04/10/2003 7:56:37 PM PDT by Commander8
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To: JoshGray
Why are you continuing to quote clinical studies of "pedophiles" when the very definition of "pedophile" ignores the age-range that 'proves' your position? That's your complaint, isn't it, that the clinical definition of "pedophile" isn't broad enough?

My position is proven by Freund AND Federal Crimes Statistics AND the Jenny Study AND, AND… Freund’s studies involved children up to age 12 which arguably include age specific prepubescent, pubescent and postpubescent children. That’s completely ”independent” of my beef with the definition and how statistics are cataloged. Much like the article for this thread doesn’t note the double pedo/homo pathology connection until the end.

But here AGAIN we’re debating on what the definition of is is. It’s the same old song and dance and you're really becomming a bore.

123 posted on 04/11/2003 7:38:19 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Onelifetogive
You know, I was thinking of responding to your post. But, you’ve clearly demonstrated what a waste of time and effort that would be.

Sometimes there’s nothing left to do than bestow the BABI of the day award. But, of course, your posts span several days, so a BABI of the week is more in order. And since, it’s unlikely that you’ll be outdone by anyone for the remainder of the month, you Onelifetogive, are Backward Ass Bigoted Ignoramus for the month of April 2003.

Congratulations!
This honor comes complete with privilege of making more inane and ignorant statements to offend the sensibilities of fine Freepers.

Further, you are hereby entered as a contender for Backward Ass Bigoted Ignoramus for the year 2003. (Your chances look pretty good.)

125 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:43 PM PDT by Barnacle (A human shield against the onslaught of Liberal tripe.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
My position is proven by Freund AND Federal Crimes Statistics AND the Jenny Study AND, AND…

No. It's not. The Jenny study specifically disproves your position; your use (and I include the sources you're plagarizing from) of Freund's data is wrong (Freund himself states: "... pedophilia has little in common with homosexuality or heterosexuality in males who prefer physically mature partners" -- hardly the position of a man whose data 'proves' otherwise); National Crime Statistics... well... you have yet to provide anything except some vague 'I think I remember...' claim.

Freund’s studies involved children up to age 12 which arguably include age specific prepubescent, pubescent and postpubescent children. That’s completely ”independent” of my beef with the definition and how statistics are cataloged.

Considering that Freund's studies don't prove your position, I'd consider finding a new source if I were you. And that's completely independent of the rather unscientific "Well, some children were 10, 11, 12 years old, and some of those children must have been in some stage of pubescence when they were molested, and, and, and..."

126 posted on 04/11/2003 8:45:51 PM PDT by JoshGray
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To: madg
I am tired and you are old........too tired and old to continue this conversation.

I asked Donna about your first statement as it appeared to condone pedophilia and she agreed that it appeared to.

We knew that you did not so the statement came as a bit of a suprise to both of us.

Take care my friend. (Donna says hi!!)

Hopefully I will get to shoot the squirrel gun below this weekend!! This is "my thing"!






127 posted on 04/12/2003 6:11:45 AM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Jael
If they reported as a relationship of some kind they think it takes the heat off them for not putting his butt in jail along time ago. or keeping it there now without bail. there is no relationship here . Just plain and clear RAPE. what do you have to do do qualify as a rapist?
I hope I am getting my point across the way I want. Its hard to explain what I mean.
129 posted on 04/19/2003 10:44:30 AM PDT by Walnut
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